Muhammad Ali the most overrated HW ever

[Boxing-1013]

that's nonsense. Blacks went just as whites did. No black openly said he wouldn't go. except Ali, who was, by that time in the clutches of...that racist,,,I think it was Malcolm X. or some other nasty type. By himself Ali was too ******. Imagine he put a tez on his head and pleaded exemption because he was a religious "minister" do you not remember THAT ...!!

OK I disagree with some of your views there.

[IronDanHamza]

Which all time greats did Ali beat. It's just your opinion. Maybe others, like me have a different opinion. I base mine on FACT not nostalgia or sentiment.

Which Top 10 ATG heavyweights did Ali beat?

Is that a serious question?

[Boxing fan1981]

He’s absolutely overrated.

Literally a lot of people call him the greatest because ALI used to call himself the greatest. He beat a slow heavy handed Foreman, lost to Fraiser and was knocked down by a bum, and robbed Norton many times.

If you call yourself the greatest after every interview people who aren’t knowledgeable of boxing will just assume it so and accept it.

[Hustle]

lost to Ken norton 3 times and make Norton great but Norton is just decent fighter 3-7 record vs top contenders
Joe Frazier he's pretty much known for giving Ali his first loss. Quarry, Ellis, Bonavena, Foster, these guys had loads of losses when he fought them and he fought a few of them a few times. Never fought Lyle or Norton, Foreman turned him into a leprechaun. Not a ATG but Ali make him ATG title reign nothing special

Ali lost to Spinks a decent fighter at best yet again Ali fans think Spinks is some god and always mention him in Alis resume Ali media hype is in another level
Frazier Norton Listo, Lyle, Young Folley, Bonavena, Quarry are not different than Ruddock Tucker Mercer Moorer Byrd Alis resume is no better than any other great0 dominant HW champ But Ali era got and still the most media attention and exposure his myth and resume are distorted

has the best wins of any heavyweight ever

28 fight win streak liston
Undefeated foreman
Won triology with frazier


That's 4 wins against 3 of the all time top 10.


His Resume trumps any heavyweight you name. who has 4 better wins?

[TBear]

Ok then...

[Left Hook Tua]

Hell no not at all. He did dodge the draft like the plague though. He loses my respect as a human for that. Especially when you see fighters like Lomachenko, Usyk and the Klitchko's bros on the front lines willing to fight and die for their country.

Great boxer though.

Dodging the draft for most ppl is because of cowardice

Ali was a political statement

Ali was in no danger

Do you think they'll dump ali in the jungle to die? Come on

That'd be bad press.

They were gonna use ali for propaganda purposes. They were gonna use him for like USO morale boosting stuff..

A lot of black kids looked up to ali, u.s. military wanted ali in a military uniform and do pressers

Ali didn't want that.

Yeah with other draft dodgers you can call them cowards but for someone famous like ali, it actually hurt him more to dodge the draft

[MONGOOSE66]

It ain’t illegal to not know sheeit about boxing. Some people on here might be autistic too. We got to have compassion for those dummies.

[Blond Beast]

Ali would never stand for being anything less than overrated and he achieved that.

[MikeyMike100]

I dont have problem with that but no one can tell me that Guy like Norton are ATG

Agreed. Norton is not an ATG. He's only in the hall of fame cause he beat Ali

[MikeyMike100]

lost to Ken norton 3 times and make Norton great but Norton is just decent fighter 3-7 record vs top contenders
Joe Frazier he's pretty much known for giving Ali his first loss. Quarry, Ellis, Bonavena, Foster, these guys had loads of losses when he fought them and he fought a few of them a few times. Never fought Lyle or Norton, Foreman turned him into a leprechaun. Not a ATG but Ali make him ATG title reign nothing special

Ali lost to Spinks a decent fighter at best yet again Ali fans think Spinks is some god and always mention him in Alis resume Ali media hype is in another level
Frazier Norton Listo, Lyle, Young Folley, Bonavena, Quarry are not different than Ruddock Tucker Mercer Moorer Byrd Alis resume is no better than any other great0 dominant HW champ But Ali era got and still the most media attention and exposure his myth and resume are distorted

Besides for Fraizer and Liston I agree.

I think most contenders from the Ali era get overrated because of their association with Ali.
I don't see why on average they were better than the names you mentioned from the 90s and Byrd