Muhammad Ali the most overrated HW ever

[edgarg]

The resume is there. How is he over rated? Your words are a little incoherent. You don’t have to have him as the best HW but to call him over rated is absurd.

Never fought Lyle or Norton, Foreman turned him into a leprechaun. Not a ATG but Ali make him ATG title reign nothing special

What does this mean? Seriously, what does it mean to be turned into a leprechaun?

It means getting your legs chopped off at the knees........maybe?? or wearing a funny pointed hat. Who knows, There never were such things anyway.

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Louis beat more HOFERS YES AND ALI NUTHUGGERS WILL TELL YOU LOUIS FOUGH BUMS

Every fighter fights bums now and then, especially on the way up. But the Joe Louis "Bum og the Month" crap was just an inevntion by a journalist who was marvelling how Louis was able to so easily beat the best, making them look like nothing.

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It is easy to discredit any fighter, if that is your intention.

Muhammad Ali is not overrated, he was a champion of his time who? Fought everybody, and I mean everybody. Yes he lost, but then he came back 'When a fighter loses, sometimes this is a opportunity'. Greatness needs something to overcome, it needs resistance to prove how great it is 'Muhammad Ali not only had to overcome fellow all-time greats, he had to overcome the times he lived in'.

Muhammad Ali is the greatest heavyweight Champion of all-time. Not because he was unbeaten, but because he overcome. That is what real fighters are about, they don't just disappear when then are banned from the sport at the peak of their powers, they don't just disappear when they lose a fight. And they don't just want to get out of the game, when their abilities are decreasing. They adapt, they innovate and strive to stay competitive 'They fight until there is no more, because that is what gladiators, it is what Warriors do'.

Muhammad Ali achieved all of this, because he was not the same fighter when he came back in the 1970's. Area's of his game had decreased, but still? He stayed competitive, and prevailed 'He overcome'.

As a Champion, Muhammad Ali is everything you would want. His ideals, and principles by which he competed by. It did not matter whether you was a all-time great, a up and coming fighter, or just a contender that nobody really knew 'It never mattered, Ali would take on all comers'.

Tyson Fury does not take on all comers, he has only just become champion and he wants out of the game. If people want to mention any fighters that are overrated, you cannot bring up fighters like Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, Wladimir Kiltschko, Larry Holmes, or Muhammad Ali.

These fighters won titles, and they made defenses against whoever 'Those are the facts'. They beat the top fighters of their times, some of them lost, some of the came back, and some of them fought until there was no more.

This is what fighters, it is what Champions do.

I am done with this thread.

I'd bet you're his grandson ....or grand-daughter.... No one else could tell a tenth as many lies as you put together ,all in one LOOOONG Breath.

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He never fought anybody on as ferocious a streak as George foreman prior to meeting Ali in Zaire


Liston ,foreman and the frazier wins together are unmatched by any other heavyweight in history

Nonsense, have you not seen "When we were Kings". I read the whole story BEHIND that documentary. Foreman was scared silly. Didn't you know that he hears "voices" and is as superstitious as a Medielval dodo. He heard that Ali put a spell on him, and he hired a witch doctor to fight the spell, and even had him "purify" under the ring stage. He was worried about every lion roar although he was perfectly safe. Also because when Ali injured himself, Mobutu wouldn't let them go back home to train but kept them in what Foreman called a prison surroundings, with armed soldiers. etc. Ali's temperament loved all this and he whooped up the crowd wherever he went, grinning away at everyone. Foreman on the other hand, was dour, never smiled, was ,as I said scared all the time..

Don't you know that the reason he returned to boxing after ten years was because, as he says himself, a voice told him to do it, to raise money for his church. His was a nut case.. The fortune he made on those grills was just as a pusher. They were not his grills, he worked for the company. and smiled at everyone. by that time he was a a changed man smiling and grinning at everyone. I suppose his "voice" told him to.

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He was only overrated in his trash talk. He had to come up with sayings beforehand and the best he could do was “if he keeps talking jive, i’ll cut it to five.”

His buddy, I forget his name, made up all those quips, Ali just learned them off.

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He 100% made the right call. I'm sure he would have had a fairly cushy post, but they really wanted him drafted so they could recruit more blacks and use them (and all the other white soldiers too) as cannon fodder in that dumbass pointless war. Ali imo didn't want to be the token guy used to get more of his people killed. I commend that.

Ever since WW2 we've fought about 10 dumbass wars against communism. Great job we did there in WW2.

that's nonsense. Blacks went just as whites did. No black openly said he wouldn't go. except Ali, who was, by that time in the clutches of...that racist,,,I think it was Malcolm X. or some other nasty type. By himself Ali was too ******. Imagine he put a tez on his head and pleaded exemption because he was a religious "minister" do you not remember THAT ...!!

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I'd bet you're his grandson ....or grand-daughter.... No one else could tell a tell as many lies as you put together ,all in one LOOOONG Breath.

Is there any fighter in history as recognized in all corners of the globe than Ali, they always go on about Mannys greatness, well Ali stands alone in that regard he transcended boxing to become an international icon.

As to his boxing Ali had 3 comings, the Sonny Liston Cassius Clay that floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee, the next version of Muhamed Ali fought Frazier in the Fight of the Century that was a classic I was 18 at the time and remember the day like it was yesterday, the next Ali was starting to get hit a lot by big punchers it began after the second Frazier fight ending with Holmes hitting a bag, he should never have had that fight or the last with Berbik, it was horrible to watch him get beat up like that, he was already well passed his use-by date.

During his career, he proved what a talented boxer he was, young Cassius Clay would be a nightmare for any of today's HWs, during his next phase he proved what a granite chin he had, he also proved there was no quit in him and in how durable he was, when one adds to the athletism of Cassius Clay the chin and toughness he had within,,,, overrated, what a ridiculous notion the best Ali was extremely hard to beat for anyone in history, but what a world figure he turned out to be, if he was alive today he could probably get ***** to withdraw from Ukraine that's the influential power he had.

Ali was bigger than boxing.

[Dosser]

Ali lost to Spinks a decent fighter at best yet again Ali fans think Spinks is some god and always mention him in Alis resume Ali media hype is in another level

This is what happens when you legalize weed, you got mush for brains running amuck.

[mromano]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the OP is massively trolling, or just has no understanding of what Mr. Ali accomplished inside and outside of the ring.

[mromano]

Is there any fighter in history as recognized in all corners of the globe than Ali, they always go on about Mannys greatness, well Ali stands alone in that regard he transcended boxing to become an international icon.

As to his boxing Ali had 3 comings, the Sonny Liston Cassius Clay that floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee, the next version of Muhamed Ali fought Frazier in the Fight of the Century that was a classic I was 18 at the time and remember the day like it was yesterday, the next Ali was starting to get hit a lot by big punchers it began after the second Frazier fight ending with Holmes hitting a bag, he should never have had that fight or the last with Berbik, it was horrible to watch him get beat up like that, he was already well passed his use-by date.

During his career, he proved what a talented boxer he was, young Cassius Clay would be a nightmare for any of today's HWs, during his next phase he proved what a granite chin he had, he also proved there was no quit in him and in how durable he was, when one adds to the athletism of Cassius Clay the chin and toughness he had within,,,, overrated, what a ridiculous notion the best Ali was extremely hard to beat for anyone in history, but what a world figure he turned out to be, if he was alive today he could probably get ***** to withdraw from Ukraine that's the influential power he had.

Ali was bigger than boxing.

Agree with this 100%. Very well said.