Mayweather: "Mosley Beat De La Hoya on Steroids"

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  • Pullcounter
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    #111
    Originally posted by Al Haymon
    Don't you feel any size disparities were offset at the weights they fought?

    Oscar:
    May - 154
    Pac - 147
    against oscar? yep

    Ricky:
    May - 147
    Pac - 140
    against ricky? nope

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    • jayhova29
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      #112
      Originally posted by Al Haymon
      What is the statute of limitations for cheating?
      good question? I dont like mayweather's personality at all, but he's telling the truth there, if that was him that got caught it would be a whole different story.

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      • Al Haymon
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        #113
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        against oscar? yep


        against ricky? nope
        I saw them next to each other with their clothes off. I do not feel that there was a substantive size difference. Do you?





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        • Al Haymon
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          #114
          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          I\

          Yeah... Pac was coming into the ring at 144 as far back as that. He isn't the little guy some make him out to be.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Al Haymon
            Don't you feel any size disparities were offset at the weights they fought?

            Oscar:
            May - 154
            Pac - 147

            Ricky:
            May - 147
            Pac - 140
            OK once again me personally. The size or whatever the advantage that the 'bigger fighters' had, didn't matter. Cuz I knew they were not in Floyd or Pac skill level. I knew it would of been easy wins for both.

            And, I don't what you thought at the time this fights took place. But, at the time by the boxing public they gave Pac a lesser chance of wining. Or am I mistaken by that statement? Was Pac not consider an underdog in the fight agaisnt Oscar? And, I am not talking about the odds. I am talking about boxing fans and boxing experts. While was Mayweather not considered the favorite against Oscar? Again not by the odds but by the boxing public. Didn't fans gave Hatton a better chance of beating Pac than what they did of beating Floyd?

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            • jayhova29
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              #116
              Originally posted by arraamis
              Guys, don't forget that this case with Mosley and Balco is still ongoing in the form of a defamation case ..... So, Mosley isn't out of the hot seat yet.

              But back on-topic, Floyd is correct about the double-standard and is within his right, to remind the fans that Mosley DID used roids in a sactioned fight.

              Mosley cannot escape that reality and fans of the sport shouldn't give anyone a pass on something that serious.
              We can hate mayweather all we want, but he's dead on! The general boxing public likes and respects mosley so they give him a pass, its a shame because thats the only thing that stops me from not recognizing him as an Hall of famer.

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                #117
                Originally posted by arcticfalconer
                ????????????????? What are you smoking mang ??????????

                Mosley will KO Clottey and Jr knows it ! Jr. Knows he will have to fight Mosley in the future and wants none of it , he knows Shane has his number , Jr. is slick with his mouth and people follow him like the pied piper.

                Its fun though to watch all this unfold .
                what are you smoking? He'll beat clottey, but no way in hell he's doing it by a KO?

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                • Al Haymon
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by jayhova29
                  We can hate mayweather all we want, but he's dead on! The general boxing public likes and respects mosley so they give him a pass, its a shame because thats the only thing that stops me from not recognizing him as an Hall of famer.
                  For me, I have to look at he fact that Shane went nine years without a significant win.

                  I listen to a lot of people talk about SM as an HoF'er. I just don't see it like they do. But if anyone wants to educate me about Shane's HoF credentials between Oscar 1 and Margarito, I'm willing to listen.

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                  • Al Haymon
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by jrosales13

                    And, I don't what you thought at the time this fights took place. But, at the time by the boxing public they gave Pac a lesser chance of wining. Or am I mistaken by that statement? Was Pac not consider an underdog in the fight agaisnt Oscar? And, I am not talking about the odds. I am talking about boxing fans and boxing experts. While was Mayweather not considered the favorite against Oscar? Again not by the odds but by the boxing public. Didn't fans gave Hatton a better chance of beating Pac than what they did of beating Floyd?
                    Floyd was favored over Oscar. Oscar was favored over Pac.

                    I'd say that the boxing community viewed both Hattton fights the same way. Slim chance for Ricky.

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                    • Dave Rado
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Al Haymon
                      For me, I have to look at he fact that Shane went nine years without a significant win.

                      I listen to a lot of people talk about SM as an HoF'er. I just don't see it like they do. But if anyone wants to educate me about Shane's HoF credentials between Oscar 1 and Margarito, I'm willing to listen.
                      Whether he'll get voted into the Hall of Fame remains to be seen, and whether you're convinced that he should be or not will not affect the vote. What's far more important is that right now, Mosley is ranked #1 at Welterweight. If Floyd was a great fighter he would want to beat the top fighters in his weight division, and Mosley is the #1. Instead Floyd spends all his energy in coming up with reasons not to fight any of the top fighters in his weight class, which is pathetic.

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