Mayweather: "Mosley Beat De La Hoya on Steroids"

[jayhova29]

My Motto - If it ain't broke, don't fix it ... Steel pellets probally would be good, but why change what works. Those vests feel restricting and unnatural ... don't really care for them.



How is Mosley the TRUE champ???????

He beat AM who was tailor made for anyone with experience to dominate. AM never, never had the skill-set to beat the elite of the WW division ... NEVER. Cotto should have beaten AM, but he fought silly and gave AM every opportunity to smash him.

Mayweather would school Mosley 24/7. Mosley only looks good against the Mayorga's and the Margarito's. Every Top WW Mosley fought ...he either lost or had a very tough time getting the decision. And even when he fought DLH, he had to JUICE-UP to beat him.

AM wasn't the true WW champ .. so, how did Mosley become the TRUE champ by beating him??????

What about Berto, Cotto and Williams ...... Mosley talks **** after beating a Arum produced HYPE_JOB in Margarito, but where were his balls when Williams called him out in every way possible??????

I guess since Mosley can't use the Clear & Cream and EPO anymore .... Williams is out of the question.

Mosley was {Pre-DLH} a great Champion ... But since then he's become a JUICE_HEAD, a Hypocrite and a phony ........ need I say more?????

lol, eloquently well put. roflmao

[Blue Heffner]

When Mosley was in the position to give Floyd a fight, he didn't. Floyd chased him a lot. Floyd didn't need the money, because he had a guaranteed contract with HBO - he was gonna make good bucks anyway. But Floyd needed the name on his resume, and the recognition from the public.

Mosley turned down several Mayweather offers.

Now, the tables are turned. Shane has few options, and Floyd is in the catbird seat. FMJ benefits little by fighting SM now. The watercooler fan isn't asking about Shane. Shane doesn't bring a mainstream fanbase. Before you challenge this, think about life outside this board. And review Shane's commercial history.

And that's the reason I would not fight Shane. And I don't see a reason why Mayweather should go for the bull**** deals that Arum is going to offer him to fight Pacquiao. That's why don't respond to alot of thread because people are bias and taking **** personal.

[fabzmm]

For me, I have to look at he fact that Shane went nine years without a significant win.

I listen to a lot of people talk about SM as an HoF'er. I just don't see it like they do. But if anyone wants to educate me about Shane's HoF credentials between Oscar 1 and Margarito, I'm willing to listen.

Ricardo Mayorga.

[jrosales13]

Floyd was favored over Oscar. Oscar was favored over Pac.

I'd say that the boxing community viewed both Hattton fights the same way. Slim chance for Ricky.

Ok fair enough. But that is why Pac over Oscar is looked as a more impressive win than Floyd beating Oscar. Not really double stanard against Floyd himself but a double standard the against the best fighter. Another example if JMM beats Mayweather and Shane also beats Mayweather. A JMM win would be more highly regarded cuz he is looked as the bigger underdog.

So it does somtimes upset me that a lot of fans always want to say there is a double standard agaisnt Floyd. I don't think that is true. But, it is a double standard against the better fighter. If that makes any sense? Is like when Morales beat Barrera and Pac beat Barrera. When Morales did it he was the favorit. It looked like Barrera was passed his prime going in and Morales in his prime. But, when Pac did it. Barrera was a top 5 P4P and was the favorite against Pac. So Pac win was more of an eye opener. Is like if Williams beats Pavlik this Dec and next year Floyd moves up to 160 and beats Pavlik also. I think people would be more impress with Floyd victory.

[jrosales13]

And that's the reason I would not fight Shane. And I don't see a reason why Mayweather should go for the bull**** deals that Arum is going to offer him to fight Pacquiao. That's why don't respond to alot of thread because people are bias and taking **** personal.

So you basically saying that Mayweather should NOT fight Mosley, Cotto, or Pac? Then who is out there for him to fight?

[Al Haymon]

Whether he'll get voted into the Hall of Fame remains to be seen, and whether you're convinced that he should be or not will not affect the vote. What's far more important is that right now, Mosley is ranked #1 at Welterweight. If Floyd was a great fighter he would want to beat the top fighters in his weight division, and Mosley is the #1. Instead Floyd spends all his energy in coming up with reasons not to fight any of the top fighters in his weight class, which is pathetic.

Dave, when Mayweather was the #1 (#2?) figher in the WW division, and he offered Shane a fight, and Shane refused....was that pathetic of Shane?

We must consider that Berto and Williams are two of the top WW's in the world. Right? I think Mosley had opportunities to fight both this year. He turned those down, but said that he was willing to go to 140 to fight Pac.

Nearly ten years ago, Shane turned down a Mayweather offer at 137 saying he couldn't make the weight. Ten years later, he is willing to go down to 140?

What do they say about that whole goose/gander thing?

[Al Haymon]

All the guys are doing the SAME THING - looking for big-money fights.

Except Miguel Cotto. He fights whoever his company tells him to fight.

[jayhova29]

That is a true story, he fought Hatton over Moesly because hatton would generate more revenue, not to mention, he was undefeated at that time. Sugar shane was never really a big draw, and hatton had more fans come to vegas for his fight with mayweather, then american fight fans do when shane is fighting in his hometown. Shane is a good fighter but he's the real f@#king fraud and hypocrite, but because boxing fans like him he gets a pass, thats the bull****.

[Al Haymon]

Ricardo Mayorga.

Exactly.






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[jrosales13]

Dave, when Mayweather was the #1 (#2?) figher in the WW division, and he offered Shane a fight, and Shane refused....was that pathetic of Shane?

We must consider that Berto and Williams are two of the top WW's in the world. Right? I think Mosley had opportunities to fight both this year. He turned those down, but said that he was willing to go to 140 to fight Pac.

Nearly ten years ago, Shane turned down a Mayweather offer at 137 saying he couldn't make the weight. Ten years later, he is willing to go down to 140?

What do they say about that whole goose/gander thing?

I wouldn't consider Berto a top WW. But, I get your point. However, even though I don't consider Berto a top WW. He did turn down a fight against Mosley. Cuz the money wasn't right I guess. But, Mosley never looked eager to fight Williams.

Nobody looks eager to fight Williams exept for Martinez and Dzinziruk.