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  • arraamis
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    #81
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Are you talking about when Shane said about he had a toothache? Anyways at that time I honestly think at that time Shane was playing his role. Oscar is the boss. If Shane would of fought Floyd and beat Floyd there would of been no World Awaits. Oscar knew this. I think Oscar had a lot to do with that fight not happening. Right before the World Awaits fight.
    If that was/is the situation - Then the haters are way off base to blame Floyd for what DLH forced Mosley to do ..... Correct????

    As I see it, Floyd was 100% game and made it known!!!!

    Mosley, for whatever reason wasn't and also, made it known.

    End of story for those who can understand and accept reality.

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      #82
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Are you talking about when Shane said about he had a toothache? Anyways at that time I honestly think at that time Shane was playing his role. Oscar is the boss. If Shane would of fought Floyd and beat Floyd there would of been no World Awaits. Oscar knew this. I think Oscar had a lot to do with that fight not happening. Right before the World Awaits fight.
      In the interests of accuracy, -if anyone IS interested- Mosley didn't say anything about a toothache.

      What he said was-and he also demonstrated by putting his fingers to his tooth- WAS, that he had a LOOSE front tooth which he wanted to get fixed by the dentist. He also wanted some free time with his family, both desires to run concurrently.

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        #83
        Originally posted by bigpoppapump
        floyd mayweather jr. Has once again fired off on shane mosley. The latest has mayweather throwing around some serious thunder. He accused mosley of using steroids to beat oscar de la hoya in both fights. He doesn't think mosley won all of his titles in a fair and honest manner. Mosley is a partner in golden boy promotions who are partners with mayweather on his saturday's pay-per-view fight against juan manuel marquez at the mgm grand in las vegas.

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        floyd is open the door always at work in promotion

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        • Al Haymon
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          #84
          [QUOTE=jrosales13;6101602]
          Originally posted by jayblack
          Now he comesback both Shane and JMM call him out. And, who does Floyd chooses? JMM. Now let me ask you, who is more of a challenge between the 2?
          J-Ro

          Mi querido, you are getting lost in the "challenge" aspect. By the time a guy reaches the level that Oscar, Floyd, Pac, Bernard, etc reach, they are not looking for the best 'challenge', they are looking for the biggest fights.

          If you are gonna be stuck on the "challenge" thing, then go ahead and hate FMJ because there's no argument that anybody can make. But if you can move past that, then you should accept that to the community at large, Marquez is the bigger opponent. Commercially speaking.

          After Oscar became #1 p4p, he fought Castillejo, vargas, mayorga, etc. Do you see Winky or Forrest on that resume?

          Hopkins fought Winky at 170, and Pavlik at 170. Those guys were not even LHW's.

          Pac's past two years has consisted of the third-best Diaz, then Oscar and Ricky. Do you feel that was the "best challenge" during his prime years?

          If you want to see these guys 'challenged', then catch them on the way up. Because when they get to the top, there are so many hands in the till, and so many people who depend on them to generate revenue, that they will be all about the "biggest fights out there". They already paid the cost to be the boss.

          True Story.

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          • Al Haymon
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            #85
            Originally posted by arraamis
            If that was/is the situation - Then the haters are way off base to blame Floyd for what DLH forced Mosley to do ..... Correct????

            As I see it, Floyd was 100% game and made it known!!!!

            Mosley, for whatever reason wasn't and also, made it known.

            End of story for those who can understand and accept reality.
            Arraamis,

            No need to try to judge based on what others are telling you. I have posted TWO videos earlier in this thread....from the fighters' mouths. You can judge for yourself.

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            • jrosales13
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              #86
              Originally posted by arraamis
              My Motto - If it ain't broke, don't fix it ... Steel pellets probally would be good, but why change what works. Those vests feel restricting and unnatural ... don't really care for them.



              How is Mosley the TRUE champ???????

              He beat AM who was tailor made for anyone with experience to dominate. AM never, never had the skill-set to beat the elite of the WW division ... NEVER. Cotto should have beaten AM, but he fought silly and gave AM every opportunity to smash him.

              Mayweather would school Mosley 24/7. Mosley only looks good against the Mayorga's and the Margarito's. Every Top WW Mosley fought ...he either lost or had a very tough time getting the decision. And even when he fought DLH, he had to JUICE-UP to beat him.

              AM wasn't the true WW champ .. so, how did Mosley become the TRUE champ by beating him??????

              What about Berto, Cotto and Williams ...... Mosley talks **** after beating a Arum produced HYPE_JOB in Margarito, but where were his balls when Williams called him out in every way possible??????

              I guess since Mosley can't use the Clear & Cream and EPO anymore .... Williams is out of the question.

              Mosley was {Pre-DLH} a great Champion ... But since then he's become a JUICE_HEAD, a Hypocrite and a phony ........ need I say more?????
              There is no proof that Mosley was on the juice when he beat Oscar the first time at 147. Shane is the real WW champ. AM was considered #1 rank and Shane was number #3. #2 was Cotto. AM just got done beating Cotto. So a fight with the #3 would be for the vacant real linear championship. Mosley won, which means he won the title.

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              • fabzmm
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                #87
                [QUOTE=Al Haymon;6101668]
                Originally posted by jrosales13

                J-Ro

                Mi querido, you are getting lost in the "challenge" aspect. By the time a guy reaches the level that Oscar, Floyd, Pac, Bernard, etc reach, they are not looking for the best 'challenge', they are looking for the biggest fights.

                If you are gonna be stuck on the "challenge" thing, then go ahead and hate FMJ because there's no argument that anybody can make. But if you can move past that, then you should accept that to the community at large, Marquez is the bigger opponent. Commercially speaking.

                After Oscar became #1 p4p, he fought Castillejo, vargas, mayorga, etc. Do you see Winky or Forrest on that resume?

                Hopkins fought Winky at 170, and Pavlik at 170. Those guys were not even LHW's.

                Pac's past two years has consisted of the third-best Diaz, then Oscar and Ricky. Do you feel that was the "best challenge" during his prime years?

                If you want to see these guys 'challenged', then catch them on the way up. Because when they get to the top, there are so many hands in the till, and so many people who depend on them to generate revenue, that they will be all about the "biggest fights out there". They already paid the cost to be the boss.

                True Story.
                I have no idea why you're in the red bro, every post from you is legit.

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                • fabzmm
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  There is no proof that Mosley was on the juice when he beat Oscar the first time at 147. Shane is the real WW champ. AM was considered #1 rank and Shane was number #3. #2 was Cotto. AM just got done beating Cotto. So a fight with the #3 would be for the vacant real linear championship. Mosley won, which means he won the title.
                  Was there proof Margarito cheated vs Cotto? If a guy used steroids or used something illegal, I think it's legit to question his other bouts.


                  Shane lied and continued to lie. It's documented that he's a full blown cheater and it's a SLAP in the face to every boxer who trains his ass off to fight and the whole boxing community. Let MMA fighters get caught with steroids and ruin their reputation but when I see a boxer use steroids and tarnish the SPORTS reputation it doesn't fly in my book.

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                  • Al Haymon
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                    #89
                    [QUOTE=fabzmm;6101731]
                    Originally posted by Al Haymon

                    I have no idea why you're in the red bro, every post from you is legit.
                    What happened was that I made a couple of true, but not complimentary, statements about Pacquiao. A couple of Pac fans went bananas and gave me red k. That was, like, my second day on here. Despite getting green k since then, I've never made it back.

                    I was told that some experienced posters try to bully newbies like myself with bad karma. Oh well. I'm here to learn and to share info... I'm not really focused on the red bar.

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                    • Al Haymon
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      In the interests of accuracy, -if anyone IS interested- Mosley didn't say anything about a toothache.

                      What he said was-and he also demonstrated by putting his fingers to his tooth- WAS, that he had a LOOSE front tooth which he wanted to get fixed by the dentist. He also wanted some free time with his family, both desires to run concurrently.
                      Ed.... That was July. The reserved fight date was November.

                      Shane could have played in the Hawaiian sun with Jin and Dr. Goldstein, DDS for six weeks. And then show up at training camp in September. For the biggest payday of his career.

                      Instead, he fought Luis Collazo at Mandalay Bay in January. There were 3,000 people in attendance, and he made about $ 2 million for that fight.

                      Bad move.

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