Canelo really shouldn't be fighting at 175 lbs

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  • Willy Wanker
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    #21
    It's a risky fight for Canelo, he might be biting off more than he can chew against a bigger, undefeated champion with good boxing skills.

    I see it as a 50/50 fight, was leaning toward Canelo at first, but the more I think of it Bivol can really pull off the win. He's better than Plant, Saunders, Smith, and the version of Kovalev Canelo beat.

    Canelo deserves credit for taking this fight. It would be his best win IMO.

    People keep talking weight and how muscular Canelo is. Weight is not really his issue, it's being at a big height and reach disadvantage is what he has to worry about. Canelo was dwarfed by Plant and Smith at 168, now Canelo is fighting a prime champ at 175.
    Last edited by Willy Wanker; 03-05-2022, 01:31 PM.

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    • BustedKnuckles
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      #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      Bivol towers over him. It's easy to tell that these two belong in different weight classes.

      A good big man almost always beats a good little man. Let's see if that holds true again, but respect to Canelo for pushing his limits.
      1. "A good big man almost always beats a good little man." Yes.

      2. "Respect to Canelo for pushing his limits." Yes, definitely. In the current era of boxers ducking hard fights and waiting around for money, I expecially appreciate fighters who are willing to push themselves and reach for greatness. (And I don't want to hear about the roids, because it's easy to see that it's common. Plenty of juicers ain't reaching for the big fights.)

      Weight class champions should think like the Highlander. "In the end, there can be only one."

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #23
        its not a risky fight at all. people think im trolling but how is it a risky fight when you know your opponent cant knock you out and whatever happens the judges will give you the decision? fact hes lined up who hes fighting after bivol should be enough to tell people that the scorecards are filled in already. worst thing is that the canelo (and mayweather fans) will say he deserved the win even if he should have lost every round on the cards. all the rest of you who are saying its a great match up, canelos taking a risk will be the same ones crying that boxing is a joke, boxing is corrupt when the robbery comes in, and then you'll all pay again for canelos next fight.
        Last edited by Madison Boxing; 03-05-2022, 03:14 PM.

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        • Apollo7
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          #24
          Originally posted by Madison boxing
          its not a risky fight at all. people think im trolling but how is it a risky fight when you know your opponent cant knock you out and whatever happens the judges will give you the decision? fact hes lined up who hes fighting after bivol should be enough to tell people that the scorecards are filled in already. worst thing is that the canelo (and mayweather fans) will say he deserved the win even if he should have lost every round on the cards. all the rest of you who are saying its a great match up, canelos taking a risk will be the same ones crying that boxing is a joke, boxing is corrupt when the robbery comes in, and then you'll all pay again for canelos next fight.
          He's still risking his reputation. Right now he is seen by many as some p4p atg goat level guy. If he is beaten up and out boxed, it will fuel the narrative that he isn't really that good and has just been picking his opponents carefully.

          I agree with the OP that Canelo is small for a LHW but it is not uncommon for great fighters to move up through divisions.

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          • Smash
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            #25
            Originally posted by Madison boxing
            its not a risky fight at all. people think im trolling but how is it a risky fight when you know your opponent cant knock you out and whatever happens the judges will give you the decision? fact hes lined up who hes fighting after bivol should be enough to tell people that the scorecards are filled in already. worst thing is that the canelo (and mayweather fans) will say he deserved the win even if he should have lost every round on the cards. all the rest of you who are saying its a great match up, canelos taking a risk will be the same ones crying that boxing is a joke, boxing is corrupt when the robbery comes in, and then you'll all pay again for canelos next fight.
            thats true but if he does end up getting lets say a gift, as we all know can happen, it makes a difference, people will nit pick the fight for all time, nelo needs a clear win and thats what hes banking on, so if he doesnt get that, he wont be happy & neither will his fans, actually the nelo fans i know all think nelo beats this russian guy, if he needs a gift or even if its a very close fight, they will be a bit taken aback i think

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            • mrpain81
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              #26
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              To be honest, I don’t think he’ll beat Bivol.
              Hardest fight from 160 to 175, everything about this match-up is bad for Canelo.

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              • Roadblock
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                #27
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Bivol towers over him. It's easy to tell that these two belong in different weight classes.

                A good big man almost always beats a good little man. Let's see if that holds true again, but respect to Canelo for pushing his limits.
                The difference, this is a great smaller man, the same reason others have done it, although at some point there is the limit although I don't think Bivol is it, Canelo is a lot better fighter overall.

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                • HeadShots
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                  #28
                  Bivol will be a cherry pick gone wrong.

                  Reynoso thought they pulled a fast one because they thought Bivol had no punching power. Bivol is problems for Nelo

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                  • mxtali
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    Why?

                    When Canelo Alvarez was fighting at welterweight, on the night of the fight he was weighing in at close to or over 160 pounds 'Or maybe more, I am sure somebody here knows the exact weights'.

                    Canelo Alvarez if you are really honest with yourself, is really and has always been a middle-weight fighter.

                    At the beginning of his career, he was weight draining himself to be the big man. Alvarez felt that he needed to be the big man, in order to beat certain fighters.

                    This kind of back fired against Floyd Mayweather Junior, as you all know.

                    Listen guys, I am going to keep bringing this point up. Day before weigh in's create a illusion in boxing, Alvarez right now at 175 pounds 'In my opinion is fighting in and around his natural weight class'.

                    If the same day weigh in rule was re-introduced, Alvarez would continually be fighting at 168-175 pounds.



                    Lol the top WWs all weigh in close to 160 or over on fight night lol…

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                    • Amir Imam
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Plus Nelo is fighting unbeaten guys. Rather than guys with good resumes who have lost a lot already.
                      Bivol only has 19 fights

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