Canelo really shouldn't be fighting at 175 lbs

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  • mxtali
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    #31
    Originally posted by hhh1200
    rehydration clauses, peds, and rigged cards. let us look at this. Canelo couldn't stop Chavez jr, threw everything at him but a natural 175 Fonfora hit him so hard his legs went stiff like aboard. canelo goes up to 175 and has to put a double hydration clause on an old and faded kovalev. now, he is fighting a naturally strong 175 who dominated two strong punchers joe smith jr and Sullivan Barrera. We are supposed to believe this 5'8 flat-footed fighter, who wouldn't fight andrade for undisputed at 160 vs. sweet cheeks at 168, who couldn't outbox the likes of lara, fmw, and trout at 154. is this phenom like roy jones who can defy the weight classes in boxing, dominant and stop men bigger than him.

    i mean people really need to put this in perspective.
    “Couldn’t outbox fmw at 154” Lol yeah cause floyd is easy to outbox

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      #32
      Originally posted by HeadShots
      Bivol will be a cherry pick gone wrong.

      Reynoso thought they pulled a fast one because they thought Bivol had no punching power. Bivol is problems for Nelo
      Bivols resume proves he is right, if he was a puncher he would have stopped pretty much all he has fought as they are not near Canelos class, I think a lot of people wanted him to fight Bivol, Ive seen many say Canelo wouldn't fight him and now it on it is converted to a cherry-pick lol, Bilvol is undefeated a genuine 175 WC, there is more of a challenge in this than any form of cherry-picking.

      Nobody can fight everyone but anyone with eyes can see Canelo is fighting some real fights this isn't a BS fight, Canelo cant be off for this he has to be on point.

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        #33
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Bivol is supposed to be on the smaller side for a light heavyweight. Yet in the faceoffs for promoting this fight you can tell he is significantly bigger than Alvarez.

        Yet Canelo is going for it anyway. A tip of the hat to him for challenging himself and chasing legacy.

        More boxers need to start taking risky fights. Within their own weight class at the very least.
        If there is no catchweight and Bivol is able to fight fairly at 175 lbs, Canelo's getting KO'ed.

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        • DeeMoney
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          #34
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Bivol is supposed to be on the smaller side for a light heavyweight. Yet in the faceoffs for promoting this fight you can tell he is significantly bigger than Alvarez.

          Yet Canelo is going for it anyway. A tip of the hat to him for challenging himself and chasing legacy.

          More boxers need to start taking risky fights. Within their own weight class at the very least.

          To me thats the big part. I get no thrill out of a boxer moving up to a weight he doesn't do his best (or at least near his best at). This is sports, and athleticism (including size) matters in sports. I'd rather see a fighter be at his best, meaning at the weight he feels he is relatively most dominant in, then moving up in wieght to fight at less than his best.

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          • MONGOOSE66
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            #35
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Bivol is supposed to be on the smaller side for a light heavyweight. Yet in the faceoffs for promoting this fight you can tell he is significantly bigger than Alvarez.

            Yet Canelo is going for it anyway. A tip of the hat to him for challenging himself and chasing legacy.

            More boxers need to start taking risky fights. Within their own weight class at the very least.
            Todays generation of fighters talk big and do nothing. Daring to be great ISNT part of their character.
            I don’t see these kids trying to be like Pacquiao, Canelo, Hopkins, RJJ and so on.
            They only dare to be mediocre and make money safely. How exciting.

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            • Boxing fan1981
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              #36
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              Why?

              When Canelo Alvarez was fighting at welterweight, on the night of the fight he was weighing in at close to or over 160 pounds 'Or maybe more, I am sure somebody here knows the exact weights'.

              Canelo Alvarez if you are really honest with yourself, is really and has always been a middle-weight fighter.

              At the beginning of his career, he was weight draining himself to be the big man. Alvarez felt that he needed to be the big man, in order to beat certain fighters.

              This kind of back fired against Floyd Mayweather Junior, as you all know.

              Listen guys, I am going to keep bringing this point up. Day before weigh in's create a illusion in boxing, Alvarez right now at 175 pounds 'In my opinion is fighting in and around his natural weight class'.

              If the same day weigh in rule was re-introduced, Alvarez would continually be fighting at 168-175 pounds.



              Bivol is a 6ft 200lb man.

              Canelo is 5’7” 175/180lb guy, tops.

              Im talking about their walk around weight, not when In training camp. It’s pretty damn clear Bivol and Canelo are not in the same weight class.

              Look at the face off. Bivol is much much bigger.

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              • hhh1200
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                #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                To be honest, I don’t think he’ll beat Bivol.
                score cards and checks have already been written for the ggg fight. bivol hasn't had a knockout since 2019 or so, has ducked beterbiev for the same time frame, agreed he'd be willing to drain himself to 168 for a canelo fight but we are going to pretend this is a straight-up fight when they tried to hide the rehydration clauses for the kovalev fight. canelo = this generation's fraud.

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                • Oracle01
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                  #38
                  I'm not a fan but its true, Canelo is not a legit 175lb fighter. He sort of takes risks but in a measured way by carefully selecting opponents that suit his style and are beatable. Bivol is a quality fighter but he is the best suited fighter for Canelo because he is not aggresive and fights at Canelo pace.

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                  • Silence
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Oracle01
                    I'm not a fan but its true, Canelo is not a legit 175lb fighter. He sort of takes risks but in a measured way by carefully selecting opponents that suit his style and are beatable. Bivol is a quality fighter but he is the best suited fighter for Canelo because he is not aggresive and fights at Canelo pace.
                    Your idol is "legit" 175 lb fighter but he drains himself asf to make 168. Actually nowadays he can't drain himself anymore due to his love for burgers and tacos. He can eat what he wants at 175. It would be nice if your idol gets inspiration from midget Canelo instead of gets payday lol.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #40
                      Everything Abel Sanchez said about GGG, “154-175” anyone can get it”, was actually fulfilled. Not by his own fighter. It was by Canelo

                      Now he is about to fight the youngest of the top 3 at LHW, and the one most close to his age. Bivol has a very high chance of beating Canelo. Legitimate threat. This guy isn’t just big and taller, he is highly technical. Bivol isn’t some bigger/taller punching bag. Canelo needs to come at his A+ game, ready for 15 hard rounds, and even then, he could still lose. Because let’s be honest here, Bivol isn’t going to come lay down for Canelo. He isn’t going to just allow Canelo to walk out of that ring with no marks like everyone else has.

                      GGG was more like “Anyone from 147-160. Anyone above 160 must agree to catchweight. Except Chavez Jr because he sucks so bad I wouldn’t want to give him anymore disadvantages.”

                      Canelo has fought a handful of fighters that his critics said he would never fight. Lara, GGG, Jacobs, Smith, and now Bivol.

                      GGG hasn’t fought one fighter that his critics said he was afraid of.

                      Canelo, you give him the name, if they prove they are good with their resume, he WILL fight them.

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