Comments Thread For: Report: Kambosos To Defend Lightweight Titles June 5 In Melbourne, Lomachenko Frontrunner

[Boxing Logic]

you think he wanted to get his belt that way? He was mandatory and loma (being entitled) asked the wbc for the franchise title instead of facing him. So who’s fault is that? Loma is an example of maybe the most entitled move ever. He demanded a title shot in his first pro fight. When he was told he needed at least 1 pro fight first, He got a title shot in his 2nd pro fight , lost, and got another title shot in his 3rd pro fight. Doesn’t get more entitled than that.

If the WBC hadn't ordered the mandatory so quickly, Loma never would have had to choose between fighting Teofimo, and keeping his normal WBC belt. He should have been able to do both. But if that had happened, it would have kept Haney out of all the promotional articles on websites like these, and all the podcasts and youtube videos, talking about the 135 division. So what the wBC, Loma, and Haney all did, together, was help to promote more young boxers in the sport, just like Loma threw no real punches for twelve rounds so that another young American fighter, Teofimo, got the win vs him. And before that, it was young American Gervonta Davis, who has still fought no one, who publicly feuded with Lomachenko for years to help promote both of them.

It's a business. They all work together. There are too many young guys coming up all at once to get them all a real belt and promote them properly, so the powers that be in the sport came up with some loopholes and controversies to promote everyone and generate articles every day.

Same thing happens on CNN and all the news channels all the time. They call it a wedge issue. Something to drive a wedge and force people to pick a side. Before the WBC and Lomachenko did what they did, barely anyone cared about Haney, or had heard about Haney. But because of this controversy, it created a wedge issue. Whose side of the story do you support, Loma or Haney? Who is the real WBC franchise, Loma or Haney? It suddenly gave Haney a claim to being on equal footing with a P4P star in Lomachenko, despite doing nothing so far. Great promotion! But he couldn't have done it without Loma and the WBC doing what they did.

I remember when GGG's career was going great, he was basically on top of the sport, his team had effectively marketed him as the most avoided boxer in the sport who would fight anyone from 154 to 168. But then suddenly, for no reason at all, Abel Sanchez, when he was still Team GGG, went on one of the most pro-black boxing podcasts to do an exclusive interview where he said GGG may never face Charlo, and made GGG sound scared of Charlo. Why? What benefit was this to GGG, or to Abel? Why would he even go on that podcast to start with, instead of a more objective podcast with a bigger audience too, let alone go on that podcast and then make GGG sound like a ducker?

It helped promote Charlo. GGG fans don't listen to that podcast. But PBC fans do. So by making GGG sound scared only on that podcast, it fueled PBC fans hate for GGG, and made them think, "I can't believe GGG's fans support this guy! What is wrong with them! They must be racists to support him despite this!" When in reality, 99% of GGG fans never even saw that "side" of Team GGG because they only showed that side to the PBC fans. It's just like the CNN audience gets brainwashed to hate one side, and the Fox News audience gets brainwashed to hate the other side. The different narratives are purposefully delivered to different audiences in order to split the audience. Abel's interview created a wedge. It gave the PBC fans a reason to hate GGG, although it didn't really help GGG's marketability overall because it still made him look bad to his fans that heard about it. Likewise, it gave them a reason to like Charlo, and root for Charlo. "If GGG is afraid of him, then he must be the goods after all!" It helped promote Charlo.

The whole sport is like a big club in my opinion. Some play the baby face (GGG), and some play the heel, just like in WWE. And of course, baby faces and heels have to pretend, publicly, to hate each other, and be in competition with each other. But in reality, at least in my opinion, they are all working together. The same thing Abel Sanchez did for Charlo, Carl Froch and others did for GGG. "GGG hits like a mule. Swerve him like a plague!" Why would a 168 champion with a fanbase publicly announce that he is scared of a 160 pounder? How does that benefit him at all? Of course it doesn't, but it sure helped promote GGG and give him this aura of invincibility! Billy Joe Saunders said GGG would beat him and Eubank Jr in the same night. How does that benefit Billy to say that about a competitor in his own division? It doesn't, but it helped to promote GGG!

It's a big club, and we aint in it. The only thing faker than the social media feuds and "political moves" are the fights themselves.

[Boxing-1013]

So instead of a unification, it’ll be the entitled line skipping loma jumping to the front again to get a title shot just like he’s been doing since his 2nd pro fight. Some boxers get all the entitlement while others can’t get a shot yet constantly get told “but who have you beat” despite being avoided.

You win 2 gold medals in the Olympics, and lose 1 fight all-time in the ams, and then turning pro late, a guy like that should be fast tracked to big fights.

[Jack_sh*t]

Entitled? What entitlement is , is getting an email stating your Champ

Word......

[BustedKnuckles]

he also lost his fight right before those 2, he’s also the reason the titles weren’t unified because he asked for the franchise title instead. He didn’t fight Haney as a mandatory and now he’s cutting in front of him to unify. Loma is entitled, he is cutting the line ….again and while I don’t hate the match up, I’d prefer a unification with the younger fighters who are supposed to be the future. Not a guy who has had his time already.

Haney already admitted he would vacate and move to 140 if he matched up and won Kambo. What would happen to the belts then? The ends of the earth? Dumb belts are what Haney and Tank use to seem relevant. There are too many as it is, and people shouldn't be able to hide them away forever.

At any rate, this is the fight that men want to watch.

[daggum]

If the WBC hadn't ordered the mandatory so quickly, Loma never would have had to choose between fighting Teofimo, and keeping his normal WBC belt. He should have been able to do both. But if that had happened, it would have kept Haney out of all the promotional articles on websites like these, and all the podcasts and youtube videos, talking about the 135 division. So what the wBC, Loma, and Haney all did, together, was help to promote more young boxers in the sport, just like Loma threw no real punches for twelve rounds so that another young American fighter, Teofimo, got the win vs him. And before that, it was young American Gervonta Davis, who has still fought no one, who publicly feuded with Lomachenko for years to help promote both of them.

It's a business. They all work together. There are too many young guys coming up all at once to get them all a real belt and promote them properly, so the powers that be in the sport came up with some loopholes and controversies to promote everyone and generate articles every day.

Same thing happens on CNN and all the news channels all the time. They call it a wedge issue. Something to drive a wedge and force people to pick a side. Before the WBC and Lomachenko did what they did, barely anyone cared about Haney, or had heard about Haney. But because of this controversy, it created a wedge issue. Whose side of the story do you support, Loma or Haney? Who is the real WBC franchise, Loma or Haney? It suddenly gave Haney a claim to being on equal footing with a P4P star in Lomachenko, despite doing nothing so far. Great promotion! But he couldn't have done it without Loma and the WBC doing what they did.

I remember when GGG's career was going great, he was basically on top of the sport, his team had effectively marketed him as the most avoided boxer in the sport who would fight anyone from 154 to 168. But then suddenly, for no reason at all, Abel Sanchez, when he was still Team GGG, went on one of the most pro-black boxing podcasts to do an exclusive interview where he said GGG may never face Charlo, and made GGG sound scared of Charlo. Why? What benefit was this to GGG, or to Abel? Why would he even go on that podcast to start with, instead of a more objective podcast with a bigger audience too, let alone go on that podcast and then make GGG sound like a ducker?

It helped promote Charlo. GGG fans don't listen to that podcast. But PBC fans do. So by making GGG sound scared only on that podcast, it fueled PBC fans hate for GGG, and made them think, "I can't believe GGG's fans support this guy! What is wrong with them! They must be racists to support him despite this!" When in reality, 99% of GGG fans never even saw that "side" of Team GGG because they only showed that side to the PBC fans. It's just like the CNN audience gets brainwashed to hate one side, and the Fox News audience gets brainwashed to hate the other side. The different narratives are purposefully delivered to different audiences in order to split the audience. Abel's interview created a wedge. It gave the PBC fans a reason to hate GGG, although it didn't really help GGG's marketability overall because it still made him look bad to his fans that heard about it. Likewise, it gave them a reason to like Charlo, and root for Charlo. "If GGG is afraid of him, then he must be the goods after all!" It helped promote Charlo.

The whole sport is like a big club in my opinion. Some play the baby face (GGG), and some play the heel, just like in WWE. And of course, baby faces and heels have to pretend, publicly, to hate each other, and be in competition with each other. But in reality, at least in my opinion, they are all working together. The same thing Abel Sanchez did for Charlo, Carl Froch and others did for GGG. "GGG hits like a mule. Swerve him like a plague!" Why would a 168 champion with a fanbase publicly announce that he is scared of a 160 pounder? How does that benefit him at all? Of course it doesn't, but it sure helped promote GGG and give him this aura of invincibility! Billy Joe Saunders said GGG would beat him and Eubank Jr in the same night. How does that benefit Billy to say that about a competitor in his own division? It doesn't, but it helped to promote GGG!

It's a big club, and we aint in it. The only thing faker than the social media feuds and "political moves" are the fights themselves.

they didnt order the fight. loma just wanted more flexibility in making better fights like against lopez and he didnt want to waste his time if the wbc ordered it fighting a guy who had never fought anyone like haney. now of course people like to revise history and make up stuff pretending he avoided haney even though the reality is haney wasnt relevant at all, but loma has never been against the fight. he even said make me a big offer or im fighting lopez...dazn offered nothing so he fought the #1 guy in the division...duck? even after the lopez fight, loma contacted haneys team to make a fight but they totally ignored him and fought linares instead. finally haney gets to fight the guy who was ducking him! oh he doesnt want to fight him anymore? did haney try to fight loma when loma was available...no he went after jojo diaz hmm ok. after kambosos won haney went for that fight and made offers to kambosos, yet never made any to loma.

[Rodtang]

Loma is a bigger money fight than Haney. If Kambosos is going to lose his belts in his first defense, it might as well be for the biggest money fight. Loma or Tank are bigger fights. Whoever wins can fight Haney next. Or after that. There's a line, and Haney is 3rd.

Are you assuming he thinks he's gonna lose? Did he assume he was gonna lose his last fight?

[Jab jab boom]

You win 2 gold medals in the Olympics, and lose 1 fight all-time in the ams, and then turning pro late, a guy like that should be fast tracked to big fights.

Fast tracked ok, but 2nd fight? Your amateur record should not get you a title shot or immediately ranked as a pro. Especially in just your 2nd pro fight. That’s entitlement no matter how you want to justify it.

[Rodtang]

Entitled? What entitlement is , is getting an email stating your Champ

Loma got an e-mail stating he was Franchise first.

[Jab jab boom]

Haney already admitted he would vacate and move to 140 if he matched up and won Kambo. What would happen to the belts then? The ends of the earth? Dumb belts are what Haney and Tank use to seem relevant. There are too many as it is, and people shouldn't be able to hide them away forever.

At any rate, this is the fight that men want to watch.

whether or not he vacated after, it would’ve provided a unified champion. Who cares what happened afterwards? You say dumb belts are want Haney and tank use to seem relevant, then why is it that loma chased a title in his 2nd pro fight and is chasing them again? He’s chasing kambosos for the belts and no other reason.

[Jab jab boom]

He lost a fight so what? 99.9% of all great fighters in history lost fights, he’s rebounded and beat two more top 10 contenders, what more do you want? That doesn’t make him entitled whatsoever, in fact it makes him deserving of a title shot.

For perspective, Haney has only ever beaten two top 10 contenders in his entire career. He’s less deserving than Loma in all honesty.

I’m fine with either matchup, both make sense but just stop with all the BS about cutting in line and entitlement, it’s pathetic dude. Haney’s team have seemingly dropped the ball during the negotiations and now Loma is stepping in to take his place. It’s just as good a fight, so stop crying about it.

all you did is prove my point with the bolded comment. How is he supposed to deserve or earn it if loma wouldn’t fight him whe he was mandatory and if loma is jumping in front of him again? And what did loma do to deserve a title shot in his 2nd and 3rd pro fights? And don’t give me any amateur record nonsense because that’s irrelevant to your ranking as a pro.