Canelo close to accepting Bivol & Golovkin

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  • champion4ever
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    #31
    Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
    Still don't see what's so special about Bivol....
    Neither do I.

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      #32
      I'd always thought of Canelo as a free agent who doesn't do multiple fight contracts anymore. So whatever happened to his fight by fight business model?

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        #33
        Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
        Still don't see what's so special about Bivol....
        That makes 2 of us

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          #34
          Bivol doesnt move the needle and neither does GGGrandpa at this point.
          But those are safer fights than Charlo and Benavidez

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            #35
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013

            Seemed like you were comparing Charlo and Bivol. And in any event, I wouldn't say Canelo is more athletic than Bivol either, by any worthwhile metric.

            Athleticism is fluidity of movement mainly. Bivol doesn't lack for that at all really.

            Charlo has about 0 chance of outboxing Canelo over 12 rounds. All he has is a puncher's chance of hurting a guy who is in his prime, and has never been hurt before in 50+ fights, many of them against bigger punchers and/or better fighters than Charlo. Maybe a 10% chance at 168.

            Bivol should be favored in a no restrictions fight over Canelo at 175. Can't see any realistic argument that Charlo at 168 is a tougher fight than Bivol at 175.
            Again, I didn’t say he lacked athleticism. I explained my point. Canelo imo is much more athletic. You are misinterpreting what you’re reading.

            I don’t know about that. I would definitely pick Canelo to beat Charlo but I give Charlo better than a punchers chance because Athleticism over the course of the fight allows for the weaker boxer to force the pace. Winning a fight isn’t always about hurting the opponent. Winning can be out scoring the opponent.

            You can’t see it because you’re looking at it as a function of Bivol or Charlo and not of Canelo.

            Canelo’s most difficult fights have been the guys that are more athletic than he- Floyd, Lara and Trout. The bigger guys who he’s faster then he’s easily defeated.

            Also, as I said to another poster- if Bivol were the more difficult opponent, why would he be the first fight of the 2 fight deal?

            The matchmakers obviously see Bivol as more beatable, despite all the points you correctly pointed out.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 02-09-2022, 05:04 PM.

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            • MeanestNiceGuy
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              #36
              Originally posted by Get em up

              That makes 2 of us
              Right. No hate at all....but he appears to be weakest link at 175 and he looked "meh" in the Joe Smith fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Neither do I.
                Trying my best doe. Can somebody point me to the fight where he looked to have a promising career? I'm not saying he doesn't but I haven't seen this defining fight of his. As we all know, anybody can hold a title at any weight for any reason other than being good. Lol

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tritium_arma

                  Was Golovkin more athletic than Canelo in their first 2 fights?
                  I don’t think so. Fair point. He arguably lost the 1st fight. I don’t think he lost the 2nd but many do.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

                    Right. No hate at all....but he appears to be weakest link at 175 and he looked "meh" in the Joe Smith fight.
                    Lol, Bivol beat Joe. Bivol is clearly better than
                    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 02-09-2022, 05:11 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy
                      Still don't see what's so special about Bivol....
                      Me neither. Honestly I think 40 year old Golovkin is still a much harder fight than Bivol. Also, if there is one man Golovkin is going to try and find one last great performance against, it's Canelo. The Great Nash says don't sleep on Canelo vs Golovkin 3. Nash out.

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