Canelo close to accepting Bivol & Golovkin

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  • Rip Chudd
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    If the deal is $85 mil as reported then Canelo would be a fool to turn that kind of money down.
    Garbage 2nd fight though. GGG's career dependent and revolving around Canelo instead of fighting other good fighters out there. Sad

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    • MeanestNiceGuy
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      #42
      Originally posted by _Maxi

      I get it. He's not black ah?


      Nice, but not quite what I was thinking. Lol

      I just don't see what the hype is all about with Bivol. Not saying he's trash or anything...I just don't see what the deal is.

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      • JakeTheBoxer
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        #43
        A false flag probably, Canelo will fight Charlo.

        Bivol is probably the best boxer alive, I don`t see Canelo fighting him.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #44
          Originally posted by Rip Chudd

          Garbage 2nd fight though. GGG's career dependent and revolving around Canelo instead of fighting other good fighters out there. Sad
          Yes but there are enough people that think he win both that the fight will sell.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            Again, I didn’t say he lacked athleticism. I explained my point. Canelo imo is much more athletic. You are misinterpreting what you’re reading.

            I don’t know about that. I would definitely pick Canelo to beat Charlo but I give Charlo better than a punchers chance because Athleticism over the course of the fight allows for the weaker boxer to force the pace. Winning a fight isn’t always about hurting the opponent. Winning can be out scoring the opponent.

            You can’t see it because you’re looking at it as a function of Bivol or Charlo and not of Canelo.

            Canelo’s most difficult fights have been the guys that are more athletic than he- Floyd, Lara and Trout. The bigger guys who he’s faster then he’s easily defeated.

            Also, as I said to another poster- if Bivol were the more difficult opponent, why would he be the first fight of the 2 fight deal?

            The matchmakers obviously see Bivol as more beatable, despite all the points you correctly pointed out.
            GGG would like a word, two words really. Plant and BJS are both pretty slick. To me those are Canelo's best 2 performances.

            I agree on wondering why Bivol is the first fight; probably a timing thing. Or it's somewhat of a case of behind the scenes, where Canelo and co. know who is really who. Like how maybe Kovalev was ripe for the picking etc when Canelo sought him out.

            My guess is that Canelo's performances (mainly fight 2) vs GGG have given him a lot of confidence that he can compete with anyone. I'm sure behind the scenes, guys know who is who. Might be the case where even an old GGG is/was still one of the best guys around those weights in the gym, and Canelo fighting so well vs him in fight 2 showed he could compete with any of those guys.

            I like Charlo. I like his explosiveness. Even vs a younger GGG, I would give Charlo more of a chance vs GGG than Canelo, because of the style matchup, despite me liking GGG more than Canelo overall. Canelo's reflexes vs GGG's would be the main thing.

            But Charlo as an actual boxer is very limited for the top level. I think that has more or less been proven. But definitely has a puncher's chance with his explosiveness for any top guys around his weight as well.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Rip Chudd

              Garbage 2nd fight though. GGG's career dependent and revolving around Canelo instead of fighting other good fighters out there. Sad
              If you have GGG anything less than 3-1-0 vs Canelo, Jacobs and Derevy, you aren't allowed to comment on his career decisions, especially nearing 40 years old, lol.

              You obviously aren't capable of giving him props when due, so any opinion you have about his career etc are null and void.

              Just a general statement btw, I can't remember any of your posts really.

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              • Rip Chudd
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                #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Yes but there are enough people that think he win both that the fight will sell.
                True. I did have him winning the first fight though

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                • DaNeutral.
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                  #48
                  Bivol v Canelo is a good one, GGG feels like he has reached his peak and is now on the wrong side of the start of decline while Canelo seems like his at peak.

                  Personally wanted Charlo to settle an abundance of debates on this forum but that doesn't sound likely judging by that story. Wonder if the PBC could afford Canelo again so soon? Doesn't sound like their bank balance is at its best right now. And I doubt the PBC would allow mall Charlo to cross no streets
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                    #49
                    It's gonna be weird seeing Golovkin get knocked out.

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                    • Rip Chudd
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                      If you have GGG anything less than 3-1-0 vs Canelo, Jacobs and Derevy, you aren't allowed to comment on his career decisions, especially nearing 40 years old, lol.

                      You obviously aren't capable of giving him props when due, so any opinion you have about his career etc are null and void.

                      Just a general statement btw, I can't remember any of your posts really.
                      I give him his props when due I'm just not a delusional fan. His career since the first fight has been waiting on Canelo, not the fans fault, it's his. There are other fights I'd love to have seen him in, unfortunately he wanted to sit around and wait on Canelo paydays.

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