Time for Joshua to step aside and challenge Wilder instead

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  • 15round
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    #21
    Originally posted by Blond Beast

    Right, it’s moot since Usyk is bound to whatever rematch clause he signed to get the fight in the first place. Still it’s a boxing forum and we hum and haw about all sorts mythical/hypothetical/magical/impossible things while the actual fights inch together. Nothing is ever set in stone in this sport. Fights get cancelled all the time for any number of reasons. I just feel bad if Usyk loses cause then I’d want AJ vs Fury instead of Usyk v AJ 3. Not really fair to Usyk.
    If Usyk only agreed to the rematch clause to get more money, he needs to honor the contract. I don't like this rematch because it was not a close scored fight or controversial. There is no demand by fans for the rematch. Fans want Fury vs Usyk and Joshua vs Wilder. Those are the matches that should be made. Nobody can predict the outcomes other than speculation. A Joshua Usyk rematch holds no mystery after watching the first one.

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    • Szef
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      #22
      The time will be after the Usyk rematch, and only if he loses.

      Joshua is still in the mix for the undisputed, Wilder is not.

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        #23
        I agree 100%. Fury vs Usyk and Joshua vs Wilder are both far more intriguing fights.

        damn both of those fights are awesome on paper. Of course the winners fight each other.

        we need Undisputed god damn it

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        • nacho daddy
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          #24
          Originally posted by 15round

          Not a good point about Usyk stepping aside. Usyk has to honor the contract unless Joshua opts out to the rematch. Joshua is holding the cards, not Usyk.

          And you are right about making more money fighting Fury instead.
          I hate these rematches that joshua mandates cause with Ruiz I say with all the money behind the steroid monster they paid off Ruiz to lose so he figured why even train that hard. so I am worried if they will try to pay off Usyk

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            #25
            Originally posted by 15round

            These are arguably the best and proven top eight heavyweights today. March-May would be the best months of boxing possibly ever. I want to see them all. Joshua needs to step aside from the rematch to make it happen. Fury needs to drop the belt, and challenge Joshua and Usyk to scrap the rematch so Uysk can fight Fury. Joshua knows he will probably lose the Usyk rematch also. Whyte 100% knows he will lose to Fury so take the offer or move on.

            Fury vs Usyk: April 2022

            Fury could be too big for Usyk and that could be bad for him because Usyk has proven with Joshua that he can fight at heavyweight, although Joshua never really tagged him like he did Ruiz so his ability to stay in a fight after getting bombed has not been proven. Usyk's size and skill could be too agile for Fury. Someone he has never seen. Fury looked vulnerable the last Wilder fight, giving the awkward Wilder too many chances to hit him. This fight would prove how skillful Fury really is.

            Joshua vs Wilder: May 2022

            Both have lost twice recently and the loser should probably retire unless it was a controversial fight. I picture a brutal ending for Joshua if he were to lose. The winner would have the option to fight the winner of one of the other matches. A win for either fighter would elevate their status in boxing history. No fan can say they don't want to see this one.

            Ruiz vs Whyte: April 2022

            Ruiz has not been stopped in two fights with Joshua and one with Parker. No doubt he is a test for any up and coming fighter. A win over Whyte would leave no doubt he should challenge one of the winners. Likewise a win for Whyte would allow him something to achieve that Joshua and Parker could not do giving him a shot at one of the winners. Who doesn't want to watch this fight.

            Parker vs Joyce: March 2022

            Joyce needs to prove himself and a win should allow him a big fight. Parker is a durable seasoned veteran and would be a great test for him and would get him a big fight if they can beat Joyce. Parker and Joyce should match up well.
            "Time for Joshua to give Fury a big payday by stepping aside and get knocked out by Wilder for less money"

            You seem pretty ******

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            • Toffee
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              #26
              Originally posted by nacho daddy

              I hate these rematches that joshua mandates cause with Ruiz I say with all the money behind the steroid monster they paid off Ruiz to lose so he figured why even train that hard. so I am worried if they will try to pay off Usyk
              Interesting you use the word 'mandates'

              It was a mandatory fight. Usyk didn't need to have a rematch clause. He chose to have a rematch clause.

              The rest of the post is just nonsense. Blaming Joshua for everything possible, including Ruiz not training.​​​​​​

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                #27
                Originally posted by BigDramaShow!

                "Time for Joshua to give Fury a big payday by stepping aside and get knocked out by Wilder for less money"

                You seem pretty ******
                You are ignorant about these fighters. Joshua has never been knocked out. He was stopped by Ruiz. There is no guarantee that Wilder would knock him out. Fury knocked Wilder out so he is not invincible. Wilder has more problems in the ring than Joshua. Stamina issues are worse for Wilder, with useless muscle from bench presses. Joshua could just as well knock out Wilder. Go back to boxing 101 chump.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Toffee

                  Interesting you use the word 'mandates'

                  It was a mandatory fight. Usyk didn't need to have a rematch clause. He chose to have a rematch clause.

                  The rest of the post is just nonsense. Blaming Joshua for everything possible, including Ruiz not training.​​​​​​
                  there are tons of money behind the steroid monster and I said Ruiz got paid not train and lose

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by 15round

                    If Usyk only agreed to the rematch clause to get more money, he needs to honor the contract. I don't like this rematch because it was not a close scored fight or controversial.There is no demand by fans for the rematch. Fans want Fury vs Usyk and Joshua vs Wilder. Those are the matches that should be made. Nobody can predict the outcomes other than speculation. A Joshua Usyk rematch holds no mystery after watching the first one.

                    - - It was 3 points from being a majority draw, those 3 points being what U scored on U IQ test, ie higher than U can count.

                    AJ already shot U and U Flubber Sissyboy down, so that leaves U two ducking your mandatory, Whyte who is coming to Knock U Shyte into U shorts where it belong.

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                      #30
                      I read this thread with interest. All of the fights listed are representitive of the great matches available to be made today and this is certainly an exciting time in the heavyweight division. It's pretty stacked.
                      The timeframes are probably too short to cluster so many big ticket fights, of course; but we can dream, can't we? For decades, the short sighted self interests of networks and promoters have hobbled the sport. For that many multi million dollar fights to occur in such a short timeframe, the marketing cohesion would have to be improved in order for all principals to profit.
                      But....they'll happen over time, and as always the young lions will replace the old.

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