Time for Joshua to step aside and challenge Wilder instead

[Willow The Wisp]

The two champions who stepped up to fight another in "The Big Three" gave us the classic trilogy of Fury vs. Wilder. I just hope we get to see Joshua able to fight for the actual heavyweight championship of the world at some point; and we get to see Wilder vs. Joshua to find out who's the number 2 of this era before Wilder ages out. All we ask of AJ is to stop losing those plastic belts you've collected long enough to join the unification party Fury & Wilder started! Joshua - Usyk? Meh. Reminds me of Mike Spinks spoiling Larry Holmes grand 50-0 exit 37 years ago by out-slickng him. Holmes' excuse was that he'd grown old. Not sure what Joshua's is.

[mrbig1]

You know if Usyk can beat AJ ass. Would David Haye beat his ass in his prime?

[15round]

The two champions who stepped up to fight another in "The Big Three" gave us the classic trilogy of Fury vs. Wilder. I just hope we get to see Joshua able to fight for the actual heavyweight championship of the world at some point; and we get to see Wilder vs. Joshua to find out who's the number 2 of this era before Wilder ages out. All we ask of AJ is to stop losing those plastic belts you've collected long enough to join the unification party Fury & Wilder started! Joshua - Usyk? Meh. Reminds me of Mike Spinks spoiling Larry Holmes grand 50-0 exit 37 years ago by out-slickng him. Holmes' excuse was that he'd grown old. Not sure what Joshua's is.

There is demand for Joshua vs Wilder but neither have expressed any interest. A win for either would elevate their status years down the road when they are retired. Both have gotten beat up so bad the last few years they don't seem to have any fight left in them.

[Marchegiano]

I think Josh-Wilder outsells undisputed with Usyk and Fury to be honest.

On the same card they'd break May.

Like it or not, Fury looks like a random uncle or some ****. Tall, but super average build. It's harder to sell than muscles

Usyk's got a name casuals will ask folks how to say. It's harder to sell than two anglo names.

Given sales is really based on convincing people who give 0 ****s about boxing they care about this fight doe, all Fury-Usyk really has is undisputed, and, I don't think casuals give a **** about that. In my experience, when you explain undisputed they usually are surprised any champion was ever disputed. Because most sports are not used to champions who are not bests.

So, I think Joshua-Wilder outsells Usyk -Fury.

And if Usyk wins, that's k2 on repeat sons. We will be excited to have an undisputed, and that's it. Usyk is not going to become a star off rewards alone. Slavs are broke and don't matter, it'll be another era of Germans supporting their EE obession and little else. Germans, who, matter more than slavs but can't hope to compete with US figures. You know Wlad matched Mike Tyson at somepoint? Yeah, 20 years worth of inflation later Wlad matched Mike.....

So yeah, Wilder-Joshua, still the biggest fight in the division.

Fury still an ugly ****er making money off juxta and not his own ability to sell

Usyk can't sell until he learns anglish.

It's still Joshua's division and Wilder is still the man folks want to see him fight. Because Fury is fat and Usyk is a slav.

[REDEEMER]

I think Josh-Wilder outsells undisputed with Usyk and Fury to be honest.

On the same card they'd break May.

Like it or not, Fury looks like a random uncle or some ****. Tall, but super average build. It's harder to sell than muscles

Usyk's got a name casuals will ask folks how to say. It's harder to sell than two anglo names.

Given sales is really based on convincing people who give 0 ****s about boxing they care about this fight doe, all Fury-Usyk really has is undisputed, and, I don't think casuals give a **** about that. In my experience, when you explain undisputed they usually are surprised any champion was ever disputed. Because most sports are not used to champions who are not bests.

So, I think Joshua-Wilder outsells Usyk -Fury.

And if Usyk wins, that's k2 on repeat sons. We will be excited to have an undisputed, and that's it. Usyk is not going to become a star off rewards alone. Slavs are broke and don't matter, it'll be another era of Germans supporting their EE obession and little else. Germans, who, matter more than slavs but can't hope to compete with US figures. You know Wlad matched Mike Tyson at somepoint? Yeah, 20 years worth of inflation later Wlad matched Mike.....

So yeah, Wilder-Joshua, still the biggest fight in the division.

Fury still an ugly ****er making money off juxta and not his own ability to sell

Usyk can't sell until he learns anglish.

It's still Joshua's division and Wilder is still the man folks want to see him fight. Because Fury is fat and Usyk is a slav.

Fury vs Usyk isn’t a fight the masses are asking for ,I think it bombs into a stinker and the fight itself loses major amounts of money on them .

Wilder vs A.J was always the biggest fight ,that ship probably sailed with Wilders Fury fights but it definitely out sells Usyk vs Fury ,really only Fury fans want it mostly . For me it’s a last resort fight.

[QueensburyRules]

There is demand for Joshua vs Wilder but neither have expressed any interest. A win for either would elevate their status years down the road when they are retired. Both have gotten beat up so bad the last few years they don't seem to have any fight left in them.

- - Bigger demand for U to be Flubber's Boy Friday blubber servant now that he ain't got a pot to Shyte in save Whyte who could knock him out.

[KingGilgamesh]

You are ignorant about these fighters. Joshua has never been knocked out. He was stopped by Ruiz. There is no guarantee that Wilder would knock him out. Fury knocked Wilder out so he is not invincible. Wilder has more problems in the ring than Joshua. Stamina issues are worse for Wilder, with useless muscle from bench presses. Joshua could just as well knock out Wilder. Go back to boxing 101 chump.

Right so getting knocked down 4+ times and TKOed is...better? I guess. Honestly, Joshua showed chin issues fighting Usyk. I really don't think anyone realises just how shot the guys chin is. If u can't see it then I don't know what to tell you.

[Get em up]

These are arguably the best and proven top eight heavyweights today. March-May would be the best months of boxing possibly ever. I want to see them all. Joshua needs to step aside from the rematch to make it happen. Fury needs to drop the belt, and challenge Joshua and Usyk to scrap the rematch so Uysk can fight Fury. Joshua knows he will probably lose the Usyk rematch also. Whyte 100% knows he will lose to Fury so take the offer or move on.

Fury vs Usyk: April 2022

Fury could be too big for Usyk and that could be bad for him because Usyk has proven with Joshua that he can fight at heavyweight, although Joshua never really tagged him like he did Ruiz so his ability to stay in a fight after getting bombed has not been proven. Usyk's size and skill could be too agile for Fury. Someone he has never seen. Fury looked vulnerable the last Wilder fight, giving the awkward Wilder too many chances to hit him. This fight would prove how skillful Fury really is.

Joshua vs Wilder: May 2022

Both have lost twice recently and the loser should probably retire unless it was a controversial fight. I picture a brutal ending for Joshua if he were to lose. The winner would have the option to fight the winner of one of the other matches. A win for either fighter would elevate their status in boxing history. No fan can say they don't want to see this one.

Ruiz vs Whyte: April 2022

Ruiz has not been stopped in two fights with Joshua and one with Parker. No doubt he is a test for any up and coming fighter. A win over Whyte would leave no doubt he should challenge one of the winners. Likewise a win for Whyte would allow him something to achieve that Joshua and Parker could not do giving him a shot at one of the winners. Who doesn't want to watch this fight.

Parker vs Joyce: March 2022

Joyce needs to prove himself and a win should allow him a big fight. Parker is a durable seasoned veteran and would be a great test for him and would get him a big fight if they can beat Joyce. Parker and Joyce should match up well.

Those are all great fights but Fury dropping his title to fight Usyk doesnt have the same appeal as it would if it were for all the titles to make a true undisputed champion.

[Boxing fan1981]

Would love this fight

[QueensburyRules]

These are arguably the best and proven top eight heavyweights today. March-May would be the best months of boxing possibly ever. I want to see them all. Joshua needs to step aside from the rematch to make it happen. Fury needs to drop the belt, and challenge Joshua and Usyk to scrap the rematch so Uysk can fight Fury. Joshua knows he will probably lose the Usyk rematch also. Whyte 100% knows he will lose to Fury so take the offer or move on.

Fury vs Usyk: April 2022

Fury could be too big for Usyk and that could be bad for him because Usyk has proven with Joshua that he can fight at heavyweight, although Joshua never really tagged him like he did Ruiz so his ability to stay in a fight after getting bombed has not been proven. Usyk's size and skill could be too agile for Fury. Someone he has never seen. Fury looked vulnerable the last Wilder fight, giving the awkward Wilder too many chances to hit him. This fight would prove how skillful Fury really is.

Joshua vs Wilder: May 2022

Both have lost twice recently and the loser should probably retire unless it was a controversial fight. I picture a brutal ending for Joshua if he were to lose. The winner would have the option to fight the winner of one of the other matches. A win for either fighter would elevate their status in boxing history. No fan can say they don't want to see this one.

Ruiz vs Whyte: April 2022

Ruiz has not been stopped in two fights with Joshua and one with Parker. No doubt he is a test for any up and coming fighter. A win over Whyte would leave no doubt he should challenge one of the winners. Likewise a win for Whyte would allow him something to achieve that Joshua and Parker could not do giving him a shot at one of the winners. Who doesn't want to watch this fight.

Parker vs Joyce: March 2022

Joyce needs to prove himself and a win should allow him a big fight. Parker is a durable seasoned veteran and would be a great test for him and would get him a big fight if they can beat Joyce. Parker and Joyce should match up well.

- - Thanks again for the reminder that Hearns is making Flubber eat Whyte's Shyte or be stripped of the last of his already record setting stripped titles

Meanwhile, the two most consummate professional and decorated Heavys currently fighting, Usyk and AJ, they will be fighting for Glory, Gold, and Honours far, far and away beyond the last grasp of the gasping Flubber currently in meltdown again. C'est la vie.