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  • daggum
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    #31
    Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

    Use your head pendejo…Alvarez was all that, yes, but he was the smaller Jr Middleweight. Of course GGG chased him for the fight, Canelo was small as ***.

    When did GGG ever call out Ward or any other much bigger super middleweight in the other direction? That’s right, never.

    Nah, never happened. He wanted 154lb, 5’7” Alvarez because he thought he could smash the smaller man.

    That’s a cherry pick gone wrong broski.
    ward literally didnt want to fight ggg. its in court documents...thats why he got kickd off hbo and thats why his promoter won his case against ward. ward refusd to fight good fighters and wanted dmtri sartison. im so sorry you had to learn this. ggg also tried to fight froch when froch was #1 but froch retired. to go from never to oh he tried fighting the top guys. reality is a bit different than you thought
    Last edited by daggum; 01-17-2022, 12:29 PM.

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    • Citizen Koba
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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum

      ggg fought jacobs and jacobs was a haymon fighter. a lot of fighters like to hide behind that excuse but when it comes down to it they just didnt want to fight.

      They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me. -saunders

      You don’t think I want to fight Golovkin, especially if there’s money there?” That’s the kind of money I’m talking about; 5 million, 10 million -quillin
      Jacobs fight came after the thaw, man. HBO was already on the way out of the game. I ain't blaming one side or another or getting bogged down in the business side of it just pointing out the fact that for a spell of about 2 years just at the time GGG was really becoming a thing those cross network fights weren't on the agenda.

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      • Boxing fan1981
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        #33
        Originally posted by Noelanthony

        Personally he won the first fight and i had Canelo taking the second fight. my issue with GGG Is that he never wanted to challenge himself and go up in weight . Rather he wanted to go back down in weight and fight a Welterweight
        That’s always been my issue with him too.

        I used to follow him and admire him.

        He lost me and I started disliking him before he fought Canelo when he fought Brook. He did a little ‘C’mon let’s go’ with his hands, when he had Brook on the ropes, thought he was so bad against little Brook putting on a show. I was ***ing disgusted.

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        • Boxing fan1981
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          #34
          Originally posted by El_Mero

          Lmfao...a cherry pick? Fighting the lineal champ, who basically had all the belts is a cherry pick now? Yall take the cake now. Im done
          In GGG’s eyes yes, it was a cherry pick.

          GGG thought he was going to demolish Alvarez. Take the belts out of the equation.

          GGG saw Canelo as the smaller man, hence he kept calling him out and calling him out.

          What happened after? One draw and one loss later, your mystique gone too.

          GGG thought he was a bully, but ended up taking an L instead lol

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          • daggum
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            #35
            Originally posted by Noelanthony

            Ward didnt want to fight GGG a weight class smaller than him rather he wanted to move up and fight a soft touch in Kovalev?? GGG coach said he will beat anyone from 154 to 168 but only wanted to entertain Ward at 164
            this is called being anachronistic. ward did not want to fight the guys hbo wanted him to fight and that consisted of ggg, bute ,and froch. this also matches up with reports from hbo meetings where ggg was willing to make the fight and ward did not want it. all this was exposed in court documents which led to wards promoter having his promotional agreement extended because he was willing to make fights for ward but ward didnt want those fights...he wanted easy fights like dmitri sartison but hbo did not want those and hence the disagreement/feud..

            ward didnt want to move up, he said he couldnt make 168 anymore and you say ward wanted to move up and fight kovalev? the reality is he was forced to fight kovalev or he wouldnt have gotten back on hbo. those are 2 completely different dynamics you are trying to blend together. the one where ward had power he chose not to fight anyone good. the one where ward had no power he was forced to fight someone good(and robbed him blindly)

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            • El_Mero
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              #36
              Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

              Use your head pendejo…Alvarez was all that, yes, but he was the smaller Jr Middleweight. Of course GGG chased him for the fight, Canelo was small as ***.

              When did GGG ever call out Ward or any other much bigger super middleweight in the other direction? That’s right, never.

              Nah, never happened. He wanted 154lb, 5’7” Alvarez because he thought he could smash the smaller man.

              That’s a cherry pick gone wrong broski.
              Yall are hilarious. Cant make this sh.it up

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              • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                #37
                Originally posted by Citizen Koba

                Jacobs fight came after the thaw, man. HBO was already on the way out of the game. I ain't blaming one side or another or getting bogged down in the business side of it just pointing out the fact that for a spell of about 2 years just at the time GGG was really becoming a thing those cross network fights weren't on the agenda.
                GGG was the right guy, in the right place but at the wrong time.

                By the time the big fights became available, he wasn’t the same fighter.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

                  In GGG’s eyes yes, it was a cherry pick.

                  GGG thought he was going to demolish Alvarez. Take the belts out of the equation.

                  GGG saw Canelo as the smaller man, hence he kept calling him out and calling him out.

                  What happened after? One draw and one loss later, your mystique gone too.

                  GGG thought he was a bully, but ended up taking an L instead lol
                  So you’re saying the past prime 36 year old B side was cherrypicking the peak 28 year old A side. You do realise the A side essentially decides when the fight happens- not the other way round.

                  You’re either trolling or a fanboy.

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                  • 4truth
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                    #39
                    Golovkin said yes and Ward said no. Ward didn’t say yes till Golovkin had Canelo trapped like a rat at 154. No way at that point he was going to abandon a career payday for what a Ward offered. Ask Kovalev about a Ward payday.

                    Golovkin offered 154 to Floyd, Floyd said no. He fought everyone who would fight him at 160. Saunders wouldn’t, Canelo wouldn’t till he could hold out no longer, 155 isn’t even a weight class. Golovkin is old and extremely slow and everyone is brave now.

                    it’s easier when you are popular and everyone wants to cash in. For Canelo the road is paved with the willingly weight drained and semi prepared.

                    if you are honest, you’ll have to admit that while Canelo is very good, Golovkin was better. Circumstances

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
                      Let's face it, he waited his whole career to protect his 0 and cherry pick Canelo Alvarez, which went wrong.

                      What about if he had focused on his legacy instead of fighting bums. How would have have done against the top champs at 160, 168, and 175. Peter Qullin? Andy Lee, BJS? Andre Ward and Direll, Froch, Bute, Jack, Abraham, Steveson, Kovalev?
                      I think he would of done well with those you mentioned but fighting the best ISNT great for corporate boxing money intake.
                      The more times he steps into the ring. The more he makes. If he steps in their with big names. Theirs a risk of loosing his financial appeal.

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