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He already whooped Dirrell and Bute in the amateurs. He beat the guy who beat Quillen. Froch backed out of a fight as did Saunders. His resume isn’t as good as it could be because he was so avoided. Now that he’s old and washed up they want to fight him.
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why would someone even mention ggg vs dirrell? dirrell's high water mark was 2010 when he fought froch and abraham. ggg didnt make his US debut until 2012. dirrell never did much of anything after 2010 so why would they fight? what were his big wins...in 2012, 13, 14, oh none, but ggg should have fought him!Comment
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Yes I think so, I would give prime GGG a more than 50% chance of beating prime Krusher. Carl Froch admitted on tape he didnt want it and retired instead. Ward didnt want it. etc etc
He had the hardest time getting people to fight him because he was destroying everybodys career. Prime G was feared as hell, OGs remember it still...Comment
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Folk vastly overestimate GGGs level of leverage and control over his career in his HBO days. He essentially came to the US at nearly 31 years old as a high risk low reward nobody Despite the massive HBO hype push they were really running him on the cheap in a division that was blowing cold in that market. Also those who were around will remeber the HBO / SHO freeze out of the period which essentially meant next to zero cross-network fights, certainly Al wouldn't be offering a fight which would do anything to enhance HBOs efforts to build a star on a budget. Nah... essntially none of those fights really had any chance of happening... more or less. HBO was never gonna match GGG vs Kovalev, the window for the Ward fight was vansihgly narrow, although yes GGG did nix it on the basis that it would clash with an expected Canelo matchup so the TS does have half a point there.
I suppose you could argue that the Froch and Saunders fights might have possibly come about if Canelo hadn't have been in the division but honestly it's a little bit disingenuous to blame it all on GGG 'chasing' Canelo when in fact he was a mandatory from the moment Canelo beat Cotto and was basically promised the fight on repeated occasions.
Anyways I think he would likely have beaten any SMW out there with the possible exception of Ward - 60/40 or 2/1 Ward for me and Froch (50/50 although think he would boxed Carl to a safe but closish decison). Kovalev difficult to say. As vastly dangerous as Kovalev was on the offense he always showed a few defensive liabilities. Tentaitively edge Kovalev but really a 50/50ish kinda fight to me. Golovkin was just a more funadamentally sound boxer although the size difference can't be overlloked.
Post Canelo... post DAZN signing - when he's finally hit the big time, or at least kinda - and in theory has a far greater say over his fight selection and career choices hawever it's frankly been pretty flat. I know we had two years of COVID but since 2018 just fighting a single decent opponent in Derevyanchenko in over 3 years is honestly disappointing even for someone's career twilight.
Woulda smashed Andy Lee or Quillin FWIW at least IMO.... Andy was very much on a level with dudes like Macklin, Barker Murray and Geale although his devastating hook was an added dimension.Comment
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in 2015 gggs promoter said we want froch no catchweight. Jul 2, 2015 Golovkin's promoter: We never asked Froch for a catch-weight ...no one at the time refuted that, neither froch no his promoter... 5 years later in 2020 froch comes out saying ggg wanted to fight at 166. not a very credible statement, seems like saving face.
and we know from court documents ward wanted no part of the opponents hbo wanted which were according to sources: ggg, bute, froch but ward wanted guys like sartison which hbo did not and thats why the judge ruled in his promoters favor to extend his contract, because his promoter was getting him fights just not the easy ones ward wanted. i dont know how people can still go around pretending ward wanted ggg or some BS when thats literally in court and he lost because of it.Comment
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ggg fought jacobs and jacobs was a haymon fighter. a lot of fighters like to hide behind that excuse but when it comes down to it they just didnt want to fight.
They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me. -saunders
You don’t think I want to fight Golovkin, especially if there’s money there?” That’s the kind of money I’m talking about; 5 million, 10 million -quillin
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It was a cherry pick in his eyes. He saw Alvarez as a small Jr Middleweight that he can smash by forcing him to move up.
GGG thought he had a size and power advantage and thought it was enough.
He always wanted/needed to be the bigger man.
Of course in the ring he found out twice getting a W against Alvarez wasn’t possible for him, hence cherry-pick gone wrong.
Ive always said the first fight was close because Alvarez had no time to adjust to the weight and needed more time. After they fought the second time Alvarez just pulled away even further.
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