If GGG Had

[F l i c k e r]

I like GGG a lot but he's not beating the top top guys above 160.

Loses to Froch on activity. Gets totally shut out by Ward. etc. etc.

He'd probably do a trilogy with Abraham. That's where I see GGG for guys who can take a punch and also dish it.

GGG mostly got on by guys with questionable durability or inability to limit damage.

[mxtali]

Beats down and stops all the 160 guys. Beats all the 168 guys except for Ward. Loses to the prime 175 guys. IMO of course

[Haka]

in 2015 gggs promoter said we want froch no catchweight. Jul 2, 2015 Golovkin's promoter: We never asked Froch for a catch-weight ...no one at the time refuted that, neither froch no his promoter... 5 years later in 2020 froch comes out saying ggg wanted to fight at 166. not a very credible statement, seems like saving face.

and we know from court documents ward wanted no part of the opponents hbo wanted which were according to sources: ggg, bute, froch but ward wanted guys like sartison which hbo did not and thats why the judge ruled in his promoters favor to extend his contract, because his promoter was getting him fights just not the easy ones ward wanted. i dont know how people can still go around pretending ward wanted ggg or some BS when thats literally in court and he lost because of it.

I could have seen Pirog beating GGG though. Shame that fight never happened because of the Pirog back injury.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Use your head pendejo…Alvarez was all that, yes, but he was the smaller Jr Middleweight. Of course GGG chased him for the fight, Canelo was small as ***.

When did GGG ever call out Ward or any other much bigger super middleweight in the other direction? That’s right, never.

Nah, never happened. He wanted 154lb, 5’7” Alvarez because he thought he could smash the smaller man.

That’s a cherry pick gone wrong broski.

That is correct. He sparred him up in big bear when he was 16 and thought it would be an easy win plus a massive payday.

[TernceBudCharlo]

In GGG’s eyes yes, it was a cherry pick.

GGG thought he was going to demolish Alvarez. Take the belts out of the equation.

GGG saw Canelo as the smaller man, hence he kept calling him out and calling him out.

What happened after? One draw and one loss later, your mystique gone too.

GGG thought he was a bully, but ended up taking an L instead lol

The funny part is if he had fought Ward in 2013 in his prime at 168 and at least been competitive he would have got a lot more respect.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Well, he actually won both fights against the roided one.

I agree with that but the problem is they were close fights and you can't leave it to the judges. He waited to long to face canelo and avoided real competition for years, lose to canelo, and now he's too old and washed up to get in the ring with anyone good? He should have known both fights were close mid way and pressed for the KO but instead fought behind a jab.

SMH, I don't understand the hate for this thread. GGG was a great amateur fighter, one of the best. I just want to know what he could have done if he had actually focused on his legacy instead of waiting for canelo. Say he'd gone up to 168 in 2013, beat Froch, Ward, maybe even Kovalev and Stevenson, he could have been one of the greats. If you're a GGG fan this is what you should want, not wins over Martln Murray FFS.

[TernceBudCharlo]

You can hate Canelo Alvarez all you want, I think he's a drug cheat fraud whose resume is smoke and mirrors but it's still a fact that what Canelo is doing is 1000 times greater than what GGG did, Plant, BJS, Smith much much MUCH better fights than Lemeuix, Murray, Geale. GGG could have had a resume like that if he'd moved up and faced Froch, Bute, Abraham, Kessler, Ward.

[TernceBudCharlo]

He beat 10 guys ranked inside top 10 and 4 guys ranked inside the top 4. When you can’t secure the big fights, you should continue to fight the top contenders. You know, what Charlo and Andrade haven’t done…

C'mon the 160lb division was complete garbage and everyone knows it, remember what happened when Martin Murray tried to fight at 168 or when Lemieux fought someone that didn't suck??

[TernceBudCharlo]

Alvarez was the guy who aged GGG out. I think Canelo will deservedly go down as the better fighter but he avoided GGG for years.

True but still. You can either let Canelo **** around with you, continue to age, fight not a single legacy fight for years.

OR.

You can say "you know what Mr. Alvarez? **** you. While you vacate your MW belt in order to duck me and continue to fight bums at 154, duck Charlo, Andrade, and the Lara rematch, here is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna fight Lara, the guy who shoulda beat you, embarrass him, and in turn embarrass you to prove the world how much better I am than you. And then I will move up and fight better fighters at 168 on my way to the HOF while you keep fighting guys like Amir Khan and Liam Smith.

I am taking the second option all day.

Anyone watch WWE remember the DX suck it chop? Now if GGG fought Lara in 2015 and knocked him out he could have done the suck it chop to Canelo.

[eco1]

I agree with that but the problem is they were close fights and you can't leave it to the judges. He waited to long to face canelo and avoided real competition for years, lose to canelo, and now he's too old and washed up to get in the ring with anyone good? He should have known both fights were close mid way and pressed for the KO but instead fought behind a jab.

SMH, I don't understand the hate for this thread. GGG was a great amateur fighter, one of the best. I just want to know what he could have done if he had actually focused on his legacy instead of waiting for canelo. Say he'd gone up to 168 in 2013, beat Froch, Ward, maybe even Kovalev and Stevenson, he could have been one of the greats. If you're a GGG fan this is what you should want, not wins over Martln Murray FFS.

I agree with he jab thing. I still think Golovkin could have Ko'd Ginger and when he hit him, Ginger felt it.