Ivan Calderon is no P4P fighter

[Steak]

Or that most of the top ten fighters were japanese and japs don't recoginze the WBO....

Really the only good fighter at 105 at the time was Eagle Kyowa, who beat Mayol more convincing then Calderon has.

what about Muhammad Rachman and Yutaka Niida?

next..........

really? thats it? I was having fun and wanted a worthwhile argument, but if youre going to be a little girl about it and give one worded responses as if youve proved something, I guess thats ok too.

have a nice day then.

[Papa Ace]

How can fighter who struggle with a B-class opponent be P4P?

[billionaire]

this guy speaks the absolute truth.....i saw on the bottom of espn that calderon won another technical descion....3rd in a row....how pathetic, what a joke segura/viloria would knock his damn head off....

[mellow_mood]

But come on...it's his 4th or 5th consecutive cuts he was saved from....I'm beginning to think he puts his head out intentionally in the mid rounds coz he always is ahead on the scorecards.

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calderon have seen his better days, thats for sure... but i respectufully disagree with that statement..

[Heru]

Here you go...



I think it was a good size cut.

The thing is that cut is on top of his forehead and wasn't impairing his vision, it shouldn't have been stoppage worthy unless it was pouring blood like the Barrera-Khan cut.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

i'd understand if the cut was right above the eye....but that ****'s way up there

[Iceta]

I hate Calderon's style of fighting. Give me an action fighter like Roman Gonzales.

[spidey17]

BlackIrish has clearly won by proving his point with clear and direct information, wheras everyone else has been trying to change the subject on him....

wow.. he only fought 3 top 10 rated guys during his run?... Disgraceful

[KJB]

Cut him some slack, folks.
Iron Boy is 34 years old, in the lower weight classes thats more like 40. He just doesnt have a lot left in the tank. A few years ago he was definitely P4P material.

[Steak]

I dont buy that ****. 3 different belts' champions 'didnt want none'? even 'avoided' fighters can get fights, it just depends on how how much they want the fights.

and I went ahead and checked, Calderon only had 3 wins over top ten rated fighters during his entire Minimumweight title reign.
Daniel Reyes-#3
Roberto Carlos Leyva-#8
Edgar Cardenas-#10

call me crazy, but thats not too great. without that 0 in the loss column, no one would look twice at Calderon. hell, theyd probably look away from him on purpose, the guys strategy is run for your life and land 3 punches a round.

Sorry guys, I have to admit I was wrong.

Daniel Reyes couldnt have been as high as #3. He convincingly lost to Omar Soto before his fight with Calderon, and Soto was rated #8 at the end of 2005.
so chances are Reyes was not rated #3 when he fought Calderon, he was probably rated lower than Soto...in other words, #9 or 10. sorry for the confusion, I dont mess up like that usually.

so top ten fighters Calderon beat:
Daniel Reyes-#9
Roberto Carlos Leyva-#8
Edgar Cardenas-#10