Already had 2 ducks (Ortiz and Parker), whos gonn be the goose?
Somebody should step up and expose Hrgovic
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Where do you rate Hrgovic at this point? I know you are a fan of his...how do you think he does against the following:Everything in this post is proving wrong . Hrgovic shouldn’t have to call guys out he’s occupied the top spot in a ranking .
Joyce declined Hrgovic before he fought DDD the narrative he needs to do this or that is not realistic .
If old school approaches are your thing then you contradicted things because you take fights that get you closer to the title fights ,you can’t have it both ways ,by saying one guy didn’t fight anyone and is blamed because the other guys declined to fight him .
1) Frank Sanchez 2) Joe Joyce
3) Dillian Whyte
4) Arlsanbel Makhmudov
5) Andy Ruiz, Jr
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Why ain't people talking about the elephant in the room?
Hearn presented the highest purse bid for Hrgovic-Hunter which was $600,000 with a 60-40 split in favor of the higher ranked fighter. This means the other guy who is being demanded to "step up" will be getting $240,000. Take the sanctioning fee, promoter's share, trainer's share, cost of the training camp, traveling and accommodation, and other expenses including taxes and that leaves you what....probably about half of that?
Now tell me any decent HW with a name willing to go for that kind of money fighting Hrgovic? Reportedly, both Ortiz and Parker made around $1 million or more for their recent fights. Ortiz can make a lot more money taking a risky fight against Chisora or Parker or Ruiz than a low-paid fight against Hrgovic and the same goes for Parker. So, can all these people claiming everyone is ducking Hrgovic put up the money first before calling other boxers names?
If Hrgovic wants to be somewhere, he needs to market himself first.Comment
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Exactly. The idea that someone should step up and expose Hrgovic only works if it's a worthwhile fight for them.
At the moment, anyone who would be confident of beating him, doesn't gain much from doing so.
Hence, he's not being ducked. He's just not yet relevant.Comment
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We've heard of wife beaters... well, Hrgovic is an old man beater.... and a cheater.
Eric Molina fight was awful... I've never seen so many blatant rabbit punches.
We need a young man like Jared Anderson to put hands on him.Comment
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Joyce would be his toughest fight and hold some resistance against Hrgovic. He might even be winning by mid rounds but like Joyce does against his opponents Hrgovic is going to start to take control of that fight and possibly stop him . Hrgovic knows exactly what to expect in that one . I just don’t think anyone but A.J or Fury stylistically pose what it takes to grind out a very difficult fight because that’s what you get automatically against Hrgovic,no one’s going to have an easy fight with him so talks of who he beat is irrelevant when posters ask it . I think Joyce gets beat up in a 12 rounder or stopped late .
So far he hasn’t even been trying really he even admits he’s been letting guys hit him and laughs about it ,he’s just getting rounds in when it comes time though and he goes in hard I think people will see why no one’s in a rush to fight him . The other guys get defeated ,some may pose more threats like big power puncher Mahkmudov but it wouldn’t go the distance probably I think Hrgovic stops him after a few rough rounds where he may have to hold out until he sees openings and Mahkmudov has plenty of defense flaws .
Ruiz is to stationary he’d never reach Hrgovic awkward Vitali like defense he’d take a beating ,how long ? I don’t know .
Whyte could make a difficult fight but Hrgovic doesn’t really think he’s a problem fir tall technical boxers I’m assuming he classes himself as one .The difference is he has very heavy hands ,he’d punish Whyte coming in and I see Whyte unraveling very quickly in that one .
Sanchez gets stopped his chin isn’t going to hold up even if he has a few good moments., he’ll slow down .
I think Usyk could give him a hard night and could win but I think after the AJ fight coming up he’s going to lose and will show guys like Hrgovic are or would be just to big for him ,Hrgovic is not some slow lumbering guy he’s a power punching calculator in there who breaks you down and the fight gets harder as it goes on which makes him a nightmare for most because he doesn’t rattle and walks guys into shots so you are going against a 6”6 guy who is breaking you down and not getting hurt which is the only way I see him losing which is to stop him
Hes never been down ever so when someone like Wlad says he’s the next champion I’m a believer at least a believable this guy improves this era far more then a Wilder ,Ortiz, Whyte Ruiz etc …..he’s the guy people are going to be comparing with A.J and Fury then there’s the other guys .
Usyk could be in that group even if he takes an L but some guys like Fury ,Joyce would pose problems for him to ,if he defeats A.J in great fashion maybe I rethink it but I don’t see it .Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-09-2022, 06:13 AM.Comment
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