At this stage Dana White taking over boxing and making it UFC style would be great

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  • Pac=Duran
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    At this stage Dana White taking over boxing and making it UFC style would be great

    UFC is ****ing soulless and all about the brand. The ideal scenario would be centralised control of match making, one commission and ex fighters as judges, but still allowing fighters the independence to do whatever ring walks and stuff they wanted- still allowing the creation of stars rather than making it all about the brand.

    boxing is so ****ed, nobody fights each other anymore. You have one or two guys that have big balls and are actual fighters and the hold a division together- guys like Porter and Lomachenko, Pacquiao, Fury, Canelo etc

    Boxing is so ****ed now lol
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    Or maybe it would be worse with even more gross mismatches and fighters having the most ridiculous size advantages. Fighters being paid pennies and most of the big fights not happening. Like are people really impressed with these glut of Dagestani wrestlers with 20lb weight advantages being able to take down a striker? Its tiresome! Careful matchmaking appealing to a niche market of religious nuts.

    People claim in the UFC the best always fight the best but we never got so many mega fights I.E Fedor vs Brock, Silva vs GSP, GSP vs Khabib, Khabib vs Tony, Rumble vs Jones, Jones vs Hendo etc etc

    The thing is the UFC only have so many fighters in each division and just because they are fight under the banner people assume they're the best when its often not the case, there are many guys outside of the UFC who would do real well. So every week due to the amount of shows and total lack of depth/fighters the top 10 is flip flopping but people act like top 10 vs top 10 means we're getting the best fights but its not always the case. Just because a supposed top guy competes vs another doesn't mean its a great fight or great card especially as far as the UFC goes.

    I think its different standards. The UFC apparently can't do any wrong and boxing even at its best just gets slated.

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    • -Kev-
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      One can only dream. If boxing was like UFC, it would be like another world. There’s certainly a lot of things that would immediately be better.

      1. We would constantly see the best fights all year ‘round. No more “talk to my promoter”. There’s one promoter. He makes the fights. This is what happens when you have a monopoly over the sport. Look at PBC pretty much owning 147-154. They get to make the best fights and everyone fights everyone. Because there is one promoter. Imagine this boxing-wide.

      2. We would see 1 title per weight class again. This means no more picking and choosing who you get a title from. This would also lead to only one ranking per weight class. So no more fighters coming out of nowhere to be ranked as the #1 contender. No more sh/t rankings. The absolute 10 best of each weight class. The multi-champ crap would also be done with.

      3. This would likely lead to one network. So on top of no more “talk to my promoter”, we would also stop seeing fights not getting made because fighters fight in different networks. No more networks having to negotiate to see who gets what.

      Cons: I think in MMA it is easier to pay dudes $250k-$500k for big fights, because it is not as dangerous. In UFC, there have been 0 deaths since its inception in the 1990s. In that same span, modern boxing, which has been around for over a century, has had 39 deaths in pro fights. Since the 1990s when UFC started, boxing has had 39 deaths. So you can’t convince a boxer to take big fight after big fight for $250k-$3 million tops. Boxing is 100x more dangerous than MMA. Boxers want to get handsomely paid before retirement and having to deal with brain injuries and early deaths due to blows sustained in their careers.

      Call them scared or any name you want, but it is true. It is the most physically grueling sport in the entire world. This actually has scientific evidence, conducted by the US Olympic Committee by scientists who study bone and muscle movement in sports. Boxing got #1, MMA got #6.



      No reason for ESPN to post a lie, as boxing is not America’s #1 bread winning sport.

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        Originally posted by dan_cov

        People claim in the UFC the best always fight the best but we never got so many mega fights I.E Fedor vs Brock, Silva vs GSP, GSP vs Khabib, Khabib vs Tony, Rumble vs Jones, Jones vs Hendo etc etc
        Ferg/Khabib was a rare example of huge fight that made sense but fell through the cracks, true. For the rest you're scraping together a handful of examples across a 12-13 year period and that includes fights where people arent in the same weight class (in boxing weight terms multiple classes apart), fights where one fighter isnt in the UFC, fights where one guy was retired for years by the time the other fighter got on the radar, and in the case of Jones/Hendo a fight that would have been looked at as a standard (probably relatively easy) title defence against a guy in his mid 40s, not really a "mega fight". In boxing we've been waiting years for Spence and Crawford, the two top guys in the same division, to face each other. We waited years for AJ/Wilder at a point where it would have been the biggest fight in the sport, never happened. Then we waited years for AJ/Fury, again the biggest fight in the sport after the Wilder fight got derailed, and to date that hasnt happened and possibly never will now. Floyd/Pac, arguably the biggest fight in boxing history, was milked for 5+ years so that they were both old by the time they faced each other.

        Of course there are MMA fights that dont get made occasionally, but overall its much less common for the biggest, most obvious fight in a division to not happen in a timely fashion. Khamzat/Usman is the biggest one available right now, lets see if it happens next year or not.

        Originally posted by dan_cov
        I think its different standards. The UFC apparently can't do any wrong and boxing even at its best just gets slated.
        I do think boxing has had a very strong few months to close out the year. Canelo/Plant, Fury/Wilder 3, AJ/Usyk, Crawford/Porter plus Teo, Tank, Loma etc all within the space of 12 weeks. Good shyt.

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        • Sheikh
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          boxing ratings are declining big time. Most of these guys are not household names and will not be. Some of it is because it is not as much on network tv and it is confined to some apps but it is that way because the ratings blow. Boxing is slowly dying but that is a good thing. Boxers are overpaid and this way they will only get big paydays for top fights not for cherry picks.

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          • Inoue Body Shot
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            #6
            The month of November for Boxing was absolutely great!!!

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            • Dakuwaqa
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              No thanks......

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              • DaNeutral.
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                #8
                Just get rid of the PBC and Boxing would be fine.

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                • Pac=Duran
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                  Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                  Just get rid of the PBC and Boxing would be fine.
                  I don’t think so. It would get way better but there would still be a lot of bull****

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                  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                    It certainly wouldn’t. Dana White ONLY makes in-house matchups, he’s NEVER done a singular cross promotion in 20+ years in MMA.

                    People are so f***ing ****** who put Dana on a pedestal above boxing promoters, he’s worse than them all, even Don King! At least King robbed from rich fighters, Dana robs from broke ones. He’s a grade A scumbag.

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