If you don't recognise Haney but you do Kambosos you have been duped.

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  • DaNeutral.
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    #41
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

    - - Flapper Lips fighting his level with JoJo for peanuts.

    Loma vs Kambo 85K stadium fight in Sydney what fans want to see after Teo ducked Loma to go after a skinny little Aussie who BTFO him in front of Teo hometown fans who cheered Kambo, not Teo.

    What grade U in?
    Why you asking me what grade I am in? Are you looking to groom me? Are you saying my post is adolescent? Start yours with flappy lips then tell me my post is adolescent? Or is it just creepy grooming?

    I'm good with Loma in Australia in front of a massive crowd. All I'm saying is right now we seem to have 2 WBC world champions and I'd like 1, one of them hasn't really earnt the label world champion but that's what we got.

    And I'm sure most ppl would agree the full fat and original WBC world title should never of been placed in a position where it is in a secondary position to this new "franchise" champion.

    Look, I'd be all for stripping Haney and just handing the title to Kambosos, I just want that full title to belong where it should be and secondary to the franchise is not its rightful place.

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    • Marchegiano
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      #42
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

      Most of the resources I read are inaccurate, so it makes a lot of sense that you're the one writing them.

      The WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO all say that George Kambosos is their top champion. The Franchise World Championship is the WBC's highest status. The Super World Championship is the WBA's highest status. The World Championship is the IBF and WBO's highest status. Kambosos holds all four of those championships, therefore he is the undisputed champion of the world.

      The IBF doesn't allow their title to be unified with the second tier title of another organization. However, you can unify the IBF world with the Franchise WBC world because the IBF recognizes the Franchise WBC world as a higher tier than the regular WBC world.

      I'm not defending the Franchise World Championship or saying I think it's a good idea. I hope it is eliminated soon. My personal opinion of whether it's a good idea or not doesn't change the fact that Kambosos holds the top title of the top organizations and is therefore the undisputed champion.
      Originally posted by NachoMan

      In all honesty, as a 3rd party observer, you seem to be arguing with the wrong guy. Read what the guy you blasted wrote ('WBC WBA IBF') a bit closer and you will see that he makes perfect sense. You should be responding to the stuff 1HourRun is posting. That's the guy railing on defending the WBC nonsense.
      I honestly do not care, I'm not assuming or pulling **** out of my ass. End of debate, go educate yourselves.

      I don't care if 1-hour is an idiot either, he didn't quote me to tell me George is or the WBC-F is officially recognized. I didn't rip anyone's ass for just being wrong or misunderstanding. I ripped his ass because his wrong ass replied to my very correct post like he knows something while being all sorts of wrong and really ****in dumb too.

      Cross recognition doesn't matter, but also this these cross-body fights is my proof for legitimacy.....sound ****** to you? Yeah, it did me too bud.

      November is not out, October has been though:
      IBF Ratings (ibf-usba-boxing.com)

      Anyone willing to bet me anything at all Haney does not remain has the champion recognized by the IBF as the WBC champion?

      Anyone want to bet against George's name exclusively occupying the WBA, WBO, and IBF slots?

      Shall I pull the WBO and offer the same?

      Why is that?

      mooks


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      • kafkod
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        #43
        Loma was universally recognised as the WBC lightweight champion. Lopez won Loma's WBC title then lost it to Kambosos. Whatever the WBC want to call the version of their title that Kambosos now holds, he should be recognised as the legit WBC champion and therefore, as the undisputed lightweight champion.

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        • sicko
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          #44


          to the Casual fan who are far from a Hardcore and don't have the time in the day to sit on Boxing Scene Forum all day, when they see this tweet from the WBC itself WTF are they supposed to think honestly? These Belt Organizations need to get their sh^t together and stop with the Bias Corruption. Stop Selling off Ranking Spots and lets guys Earn their shot and more importantly stop with this Multiple Champions Garbage

          If you're Haney, you dump that currently WBC Belt in the Garbage and demand that they order you an immediate Mandatory and you get a proper shot. Franchise was said to not be something that could be won and past along and a year or so later it has been past from Loma to Lopez to now Kambosos

          So Blame the WBC not the Fans for being Confused as to who TF we should or shouldn't acknowledge as Champion...NO OTHER SPORT has this issue ONLY BOXING!
          Last edited by sicko; 12-03-2021, 03:50 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by sicko


            to the Casual fan who are far from a Hardcore and don't have the time in the day to sit on Boxing Scene Forum all day, when they see this tweet from the WBC itself WTF are they supposed to think honestly? These Belt Organizations need to get their sh^t together and stop with the Bias Corruption. Stop Selling off Ranking Spots and lets guys Earn their shot and more importantly stop with this Multiple Champions Garbage

            If you're Haney, you dump that currently WBC Belt in the Garbage and demand that they order you an immediate Mandatory and you get a proper shot. Franchise was said to not be something that could be won and past along and a year or so later it has been past from Loma to Lopez to now Kambosos

            So Blame the WBC not the Fans for being Confused as to who TF we should or shouldn't acknowledge as Champion...NO OTHER SPORT has this issue ONLY BOXING!
            If Haney drops his belt and fights Kambosos for all that he has what then happens to the belt Haney drops? Does it become desolved? Or does it become vacant and gets fought over? What do we call the winner of that belt?

            Preferably it gets desolved but that won't happen when Maurice can have both bringing in sanctioning fees.

            ​​​​​t's such a mess thanks to Morris, we must of seen this coming as soon as that very 1st franchise belt was created..

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            • sicko
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              #46
              Originally posted by DaNeutral.

              If Haney drops his belt and fights Kambosos for all that he has what then happens to the belt Haney drops? Does it become desolved? Or does it become vacant and gets fought over? What do we call the winner of that belt?

              Preferably it gets desolved but that won't happen when Maurice can have both bringing in sanctioning fees.

              ​​​​​t's such a mess thanks to Morris, we must of seen this coming as soon as that very 1st franchise belt was created..
              Good Question, this is the mess that the WBC created but yeah the more Sanctioning fees they can collect the better that is for them

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                #47
                Originally posted by Marchegiano
                Anyone willing to bet me anything at all Haney does not remain has the champion recognized by the IBF as the WBC champion?
                The IBF doesn't allow their title to be unified with a second tier title. They do allow their title to be unified with the WBC Franchise world championship because it is now the WBC's top title.


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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                  Kambosos is just the caretaker champ anyway, I don't see how others haven't twigged yet that he just happened to be the guy in there when Lopez had a Zab Judah performance.

                  The next top guy he fights isn't going to roll up woefully underprepared, tight at the weight, totally underestimating Kambosos, with an idiot in his corner, and failing to finish a half dead Kambosos in the 10th

                  Lightning won't strike twice, the next top 5 who gets Kambosos beats him it's that simple
                  Big facts. He’s talking big as a marketing tool bc he KNOWS he has to cash out now. Hopefully he can get a soft touch in Australia then cash out, but cash out he will.

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                  • Toffee
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                    #49
                    I recognise Kambosos as Undisputed but only because I don't recognise a WBC belt at Lightweight. They devalued their belts to the point that they simply don't matter.

                    But he's not the WBC Champion. They caused that. Them trying to rewrite history doesn't change it.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                      The IBF doesn't allow their title to be unified with a second tier title. They do allow their title to be unified with the WBC Franchise world championship because it is now the WBC's top title.



                      In the HW division alone:

                      Lennox Lewis
                      Hasim Rahman
                      Wladimir Klitchsko
                      Tyson Fury
                      Anthony Joshua
                      Andy Ruiz
                      Oleksandr Usyk


                      7, in a row, 7 champions, somehow you missed them having 3 or 4 if Lennox major titles, plus, yup, the second tier IBO.


                      They do it all the time.


                      Somehow the IBO title still isn't a major or official. You know, despite being unified with official majors.


                      mook

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