If you don't recognise Haney but you do Kambosos you have been duped.

[WBC WBA IBF]

In the HW division alone:

Lennox Lewis
Hasim Rahman
Wladimir Klitchsko
Tyson Fury
Anthony Joshua
Andy Ruiz
Oleksandr Usyk

You're not making any sense. The IBF doesn't allow their title to be unified with the SECOND TIER title of another organization. They do allow the IBF to be unified with the Franchise world title because it is the WBC's top tier title now.

[Marchegiano]

You're not making any sense. The IBF doesn't allow their title to be unified with the SECOND TIER title of another organization. They do allow the IBF to be unified with the Franchise world title because it is the WBC's top tier title now.

There are plenty of wbc-ibf champions that are not franchise champions at the moment.

[DaNeutral.]

There are plenty of wbc-ibf champions that are not franchise champions at the moment.

He's going to just keep playing dumb and skirt around your very valid point as if he never saw or understood it.

[WBC WBA IBF]

There are plenty of wbc-ibf champions that are not franchise champions at the moment.

Just as the IBF has been allowed to be unified with the WBA world when there's no super champion in the division. You can't possibly be this dense. You can't unify the IBF with an organization's secondary champion, only their top champion.

[Marchegiano]

Just as the IBF has been allowed to be unified with the WBA world when there's no super champion in the division. You can't possibly be this dense. You can't unify the IBF with an organization's secondary champion, only their top champion.

Talking about dense?

[KillaMane26]

They about to fight, let them fight and put this past us....

[Goldie]

I mean, logically, Lomachenko was the WBC Champion before being “elevated”, he then lost to Teo who lost to Kambosos. So logically, Kambosos is the WBC Champion.

But even if he’s not, Devin Haney DEFINITELY isn’t a legitimate world Champion. That’s for sure.

This is a big reason why the world is crumbling. People really think that they can deny the realities of like that they don’t like.

Women and children get a pass for thinking like this, men don’t.

[NachoMan]

There are plenty of wbc-ibf champions that are not franchise champions at the moment.

No ****, in divisions where the WBC hasn’t created a bull**** franchise title. The point remains the same that the IBF isn’t recognizing secondary champions.

[Shadoww702]

Funny how one went 12 against a bigger guy ranked MUCH higher P4P and the other one against a MUCH smaller then him not even CLOSE to being ranked P4P....And still looked like a rag doll at times.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Talking about dense?

Does the IBF allow their title to be unified with a secondary world title? No.

Does the IBF allow their title to be unified with the Franchise world title? Yes.

Why? Because the Franchise world title is the WBC's top title, not a secondary world title.

Does the IBF list Franchise world champion Juan Estrada in their ratings? Yes. Would they do that if they didn't recognize the Franchise world title? No.