Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin Tops Fox Sports Pay-Per-View, January 1

[TMLT87]

Wilder beat him twice years ago. How is it a bad look?

Its not a bad look if your career defining win by miles cant beat Charles ****ing Martin convincingly?

[Gaylord Barrett]

Boxing fans getting shafted as usual...

dont worry you mom and dad are used to getting shafted

[JakeTheBoxer]

So we have:

Ortiz - Martin
Demirezen - Washington
Rice -Coffie
Sanchez -Negron
Vykhryst - Kiladze

That is damn good.

[REDEEMER]

Please show me where the IBF stated that Hrgovic vs Hunter was a final eliminator. Just because Eddie Hearn calls something a final eliminator doesn't mean it is.

Charles Martin won an eliminator to earn the #2 position. If he wins another eliminator, he is mandatory. Had Hrgovic won an eliminator for the #1 spot, Martin wouldn't be able to get around him, but since Hrgovic hasn't won an eliminator and Martin has, Hrgovic is left in the cold.

IBF rules are very clear that they encourage voluntary eliminators to fill the top positions. Martin has managed to get ranked fighters to agree to fight him. Hrgovic hasn't. Martin was under no obligation to fight Hrgovic because Hrgovic hadn't won an eliminator yet.

The IBF dropped Hunter from the top ten in its rankings for refusing to fight in the ordered title eliminator against Hrgovic ,what are you talking about again ?

If Martin doesn’t fight Hrgovic it is not Hrgovic left out it doesn’t work that way he is already a contestant for a final elimination bout by the IBF ,they aren’t going to penalize the guy that’s not declining fights . If you really knew the rules you would know the top two guys available are the only eligible guys and Hrgovic is number 3 so Martin would eliminate himself if the IBF orders another final elimination bout because Ortiz isn’t even near the next available guy .

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dont worry you mom and dad are used to getting shafted

Poor banter. Welcome to my ignore list.

[joe strong]

Its not a bad look if your career defining win by miles cant beat Charles ****ing Martin convincingly?

He knocked him out twice. That is pretty convincing. Martin is a totally different fighter. Comparing apples to oranges. Martin is a big southpaw HW who throws his hands. He laid down for Joshua & took the 8.5 million US. He was laughing after that fight. Let’s see what Martin can do against Ortiz who is the 2nd best fighter he has faced. He had a great & close fight against Kownacki. If that fight is 12 rounds he may have beat Kownacki as he won the 2nd half but ran out of rounds. So you obviously don’t like Wilder & used a thread that has nothing to do with him to take a jab…

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Dafuq is wrong with boxing? PPV?! I'm not interested enough to buy it but I just read there will be a Rice/Coffie rematch and I really wanna see that for some reason.

Coffie wasn't a world beater but they were building him up to be another HW contender. I like Johnnie Rice though! Cooooool guy! Funny as heck and he can fight!

[joe strong]

The IBF dropped Hunter from the top ten in its rankings for refusing to fight in the ordered title eliminator against Hrgovic ,what are you talking about again ?

If Martin doesn’t fight Hrgovic it is not Hrgovic left out it doesn’t work that way he is already a contestant for a final elimination bout by the IBF ,they aren’t going to penalize the guy that’s not declining fights . If you really knew the rules you would know the top two guys available are the only eligible guys and Hrgovic is number 3 so Martin would eliminate himself if the IBF orders another final elimination bout because Ortiz isn’t even near the next available guy .

I think the winner of Ortiz/Martin will have to face Hrgovic in a final eliminator…

[WBC WBA IBF]

The IBF dropped Hunter from the top ten in its rankings for refusing to fight in the ordered title eliminator against Hrgovic ,what are you talking about again ?

Hunter was dropped for refusing to fight an eliminator. That doesn't mean it was a FINAL eliminator. Hearn said it was a final eliminator. I never saw the IBF say that anywhere.

If Martin doesn’t fight Hrgovic it is not Hrgovic left out it doesn’t work that way he is already a contestant for a final elimination bout by the IBF

Show me where the IBF has said Hrgovic is fighting a FINAL eliminator.

IBF rules are very clear. You win one eliminator to get ranked in the top 2, then you have to win another eliminator to become mandatory. Hrgovic isn't in the top two because he hasn't won an eliminator. Nowhere did the IBF ever say that Hrgovic vs Hunter was a FINAL eliminator. Hearn pulled that out of his ass as usual.

[JakeTheBoxer]

If Martin -Ortiz is IBF eliminator, the winner will have to face Hrgovic. Hrgovic clearly wants to fight IBF eliminator and he is ranked N. 3. He can`t be just left out because he never refused the fight.