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  • billeau2
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    #121
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    Not asking you to opine. I'm just filling you in since I happen know. Redeemer is just a troll.

    The IBF is very straight forward. #1 & #2 are left vacant. You must win an eliminator to fill one of them. Any two fighters in the top 15 can go to the IBF and say "hey we're willing to fight each other if you'll put the winner in the top 2!" The IBF says yes 99% of the time. If those fighters are in the top 5, the IBF will install the winner at #1. If they're not in the top 5, the IBF will install the winner at #2.

    Charles Martin and Gerald Washington were both in the top 15, went to the IBF and say "hey we're willing to fight each other if you'll put the winner in the top 2!" The IBF said no problem, Martin won the fight, and becomes #2.

    Hrgovic & Hunter were going to fight for the #1 spot. The winner of that fight would have had to fight Martin in a final eliminator. Since that fight fell apart, and Martin has already fought an eliminator and been waiting a long time for somebody to fill the #1 spot to fight him, he's being allowed to fight Ortiz. That's the way the IBF works. If Hrgovic can't get anyone in the top 15 to fight him, that's his problem.
    Thanks. Thats good info. It makes my head spint rying to understand all the details of all the organizations involved.
    Last edited by billeau2; 11-19-2021, 02:02 PM.

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    • YoungManRumble
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      #122
      Excuse me?

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      • BZBEE
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        #123
        heck no....

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        • rickJen
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          #124
          This fight is also on PPV.
          Probably why there's not much buzz on it.

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          • 4truth
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            #125
            Originally posted by genrick
            Twelve pages. Fans want this fight. It's obvious.
            A veritable groundswell of fan exuberance!!

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            • REDEEMER
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              #126
              Originally posted by billeau2

              Thanks. Thats good info. It makes my head spint rying to understand all the details of all the organizations involved.
              That’s not good info he’s stating lies again .

              “Redeemer lied to you. Martin never turned anything down”

              Its on record Martin turning down Hunter and pulling out which was another elimination bout .

              https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelHu...90423557001222


              A fighter cannot go and say put me in number 1 or 2 ,they go down a list and if someone declines it’s counted as a forfeit . Hrgovic is already in the final elimination bout that’s why they removed Hunter in it’s top 10 months ago when he declined . They only remove fighters when they decline final elimination bouts . Several guys turned it down . The next fight is the final elimination bout . Now that time has past way over their own deadline they might make an exception in terms of getting an opponent ?


              Im not sure why anyone believes that joker I’ve caught him in several lies just in a couple months ,even some last week which is the norm on here why would anyone be a guy telling the forum he bet a million dollars on a fight .

              WBC WBA IBF Maybe you should read this to and once again learn what’s actually going on and what the rules of sanctioned bodies are ? Are you still limited to betting a mere million, that’s chump change I bet triple that on a poor day on my yacht .
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-19-2021, 01:05 PM.

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              • rickJen
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                #127
                So why did it take this long to make this fight happen?
                Both were available to fight the whole 2021 year.
                Theory: They both want $1 - 2 million each.
                Fight was settled when they were told it's on PPV.
                "You'll get your $500K guarantees each, then take whatever
                PPV sold."

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                • billeau2
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER

                  That’s not good info he’s stating lies again .

                  “Redeemer lied to you. Martin never turned anything down”

                  Its on record Martin turning down Hunter and pulling out which was another elimination bout .

                  https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelHu...90423557001222


                  A fighter cannot go and say put me in number 1 or 2 ,they go down a list and if someone declines it’s counted as a forfeit . Hrgovic is already in the final elimination bout that’s why they removed Hunter in it’s top 10 months ago when he declined . They only remove fighters when they decline final elimination bouts . Several guys turned it down . The next fight is the final elimination bout . Now that time has past way over their own deadline they might make an exception in terms of getting an opponent ?


                  Im not sure why anyone believes that joker I’ve caught him in several lies just in a couple months ,even some last week which is the norm on here why would anyone be a guy telling the forum he bet a million dollars on a fight .

                  WBC WBA IBF Maybe you should read this to and once again learn what’s actually going on and what the rules of sanctioned bodies are ? Are you still limited to betting a mere million, that’s chump change I bet triple that on a poor day on my yacht .
                  I really don't look at the alphabets. I would rather listen to you, WBA,etc, and others to get a picture. Just not my forte.

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                  • The plunger man
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                    #129
                    Gone are the days when you could watch sugar ray leonard face off against Wilfredo Benitez or Marvin hagler vs Vito antuerfermo on ABC sports for free.
                    This the act reason boxing is nowhere near the level we had back in the 80’s.

                    it’s being slowly strangled

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                    • REDEEMER
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by billeau2

                      I really don't look at the alphabets. I would rather listen to you, WBA,etc, and others to get a picture. Just not my forte.
                      I don’t know it all and get it wrong at times but I don’t go out deliberately posting false information, that guy does . He loves putting his own spin on things with a sprinkle of facts .

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