Comments Thread For: Hearn: Golovkin is Probably The Biggest Money Fight Out There For Canelo

[P to the J]

Said it last week..2022 he fights Golovkin..then Dirrell..the we se him once a year until he quits in 2024-2025
he is not fighting anyone in their prime that's African American and athletic.
Saul "The Anglo-Assasin" Alvarez. This guy has beaten the anglos to a pulp.

Didn’t he fight Floyd Mayweather? Unless you think he wasn’t in his prime, but I think his whole career was one long prime. Really bizarre and factually wrong comment…

Now you’ve mentioned potential prime African-American opponents (not that it’s relevant in any way), I’ll tell you one fight I’d love is Canelo vs Marcus Browne.

[Hustle]

Hearn is full of ****. Canelo just made 40 million plus ppv cut on pbc fighting plant.

No way he goes back to dazn to fight on a app against an opponent we haven't heard from since derevychencko spanked him in 2019. Szermeta dont count.

Its over eddie

[batista84]

GGGs reign at middleweight speaks for itself , he's a true middleweight he belongs there .
Props to Canelo for moving up with scientific nutritional enhancement but I can't diss a champion for staying at the weight he naturally belongs at. Its up to others to dethrone him.

I don't agree with you, before i give you my full response and you start calling me a Canelo fan which I proudly am, I will tel you that I'm also a GGG fan, I'm hyped for his Murata fight and I consider him to be an ATG MW, the dude was a beast on his prime and imho could've fought with any MW of any era including Hagler, not saying he wuold've beaten Hagler which is a totally different thing.

While I do think GGG got screwed on that 1st Canelo fight the truth is that outside Canelo and Jacobs he never challenged himself against Andrade or Charlo, I'm very possitive that he fought Jacobs because he was forced to and he fought Canelo because of the payday, nothing wrong with it, but to be 100% objective Golovkin hasn't till today fought another undefeated champion.

On the other side Canelo has fought champions which imho speaks volumes about him wanting to be great, don't get ir wrong and I will say it again, GGG got robbed, no lie on there but he also did not fought more top competition besides Canelo and Jacobs. GGG might've beat Canelo in the eyes of most of us but his legacy will never surpass Canelo, that's what I think.

[Hustle]

Didn’t he fight Floyd Mayweather? Unless you think he wasn’t in his prime, but I think his whole career was one long prime. Really bizarre and factually wrong comment…

Now you’ve mentioned potential prime African-American opponents (not that it’s relevant in any way), I’ll tell you one fight I’d love is Canelo vs Marcus Browne.

Marcus browne instead of Charlo or andrade?

No thank you

[_original_]

Yeah it probably is but for Canelos sake business wise this fight cracks 1 million PPV buys again. Not sure Canelo wants to go back to DAZN where Golovkin is just wasting away fighting nobody again.

[batista84]

Unless Golovkin looks spectacular in his next outing then I don't see the point .Canelo has found his ideal weight at super middle and would now have advantages of age and weight .Golovkin would still be there but a faded version would not do himself justice.

Call me crazy,but at 168 I still think GGG gives Canelo a harder fight than anyone out there not named Benvidez.

[batista84]

Primarily because of PEDs don't forget that... whilst targeting low lying fruit and "so called champions" Its not gone unnoticed also that he is trying to fight like GGG now since their fight; applying front foot pressure while staying on the center line in much the same way he started using shoulder role after his loss to Mayweather. The only difference here is Canelo is far less technical than GGG so you often see him falling in short with his forearm before attempting kidney punches when not in position as he did against Caleb Plant (he should've been warned about the forearms and the kidney punches).

Benevidez Beterbiev and Briedis if he's thinking about ever venturing to cruiser all give Canelo significant problems.

I will never debate the PEDs thing because he tested possitive, however I will say that he has been Vada tested since that second GGG fight and he hasn't tested possitive again, now here is a common sense question and i want you to answer it being honest. ¿Does it makes sense that Canelo fought a much better fight the second time where he was tested with microscope? Why would Canelo look better in the second fight thant the first one where supposedly he was on clem, if you follow you rcommon sense, this doesn't make any sense at all. To add to that, he made the hair folicle test and passed that test, which for weird as it sounds makes me believe that he indeed could've had a situation where he indeed did not take it on purpose, the whole soccer team and a lot of NFL athletes have tested positive for being in Mexico, the Canelo case is nto a unique one, so like I've said, you need to see the whole picture and context, i'm a firm believer that the guy did nto cheat on purpose, Of course I can't prove that, the fact is that he tested possitive and that is on record so i can't say I'm right on this one.

Second he is not fighting like GGG, he doesn't fight like GGG at all, where is that coming from, Canelo fights with a high guard cross guard stance and 80% of his defense comes from only waist movement, GGG doesn't defend like that, also Canelo is a fighter who feints a lot, Canelo only simiilitude on GGG is only on fighting more on the front foot that's it.

And he did not started using the soulder roll after Floyd, he did use it on the Trout, Lopez and Gomez fight, and way before that, go and take a look at those fights, not to mention that he doesn't fight with a 100% philly shell, in fact he doesn't like to fight philly shell because you need to have cat reflexes to fight in that stance, his defense comes most from waist movement and blocking punches.

And no, GGG is a great etchincal fighter but Canelo has more tools, comibnation creativity, better defense, more diversity on feints, better set ups, better counterpunching, better left hook. GGG is great at balance, never out of position when throwing punches but Canelo is a more diverse fighter.

For the record the forearm positioning is legal in boxing and is used a lot for positioning your opponent and controlling him, Mayweather, Ward and Lomachenko were great at doing forearm control.

Try better next ime, bro, cheers.

[batista84]

Golovkin was always the biggest money fight out there for Alvarez. Golovin II was the 4th largest gate in boxing history (GGGI was the 3rd), with a total revenue of about 120 million.
Most fans wanted a 3rd fight but Saul decided he wanted to challenge himself against Rocky Fielding.

Id' take any time of the day Fielding, Jacobs, Kovalev, Smith, Yldirim, BJS and Plant over Rolls, Derevyanchenko, Seremeta and Murata.

6 of Canelo's last 7 opponents were champions, 1 of GGG last 4 opponents is a champion, absurd comparation btw, the level of oposition gap is abysmal.

[Jdasilva2012]

Stop with the non-sense! GGG is too old. Why not make the Canelo-Benavidez fight instead? Because how do you imagine are gonna be the odds? -1500 / +500 Canelo? Sorry but it's time for Canelo to be in a fight at least 50/50. Did you remember when he challenged himself and was the underdog in a fight? Even in the first GGG fight, GGG was 35yo and in my card GGG was the better man that night. Now he is 39, are you kidding me?

Guys like Pacquiao were used to be the underdog and beat the odd. Canelo is very good but he has been extremely well managed (Low risk, High reward). He has been fed big names past their primes or weak punchers and has been barely challenged.

[batista84]

Well yes, its not that strange of an idea for a fighter when beating the highest level fighter he has faced up to that point to be considered great. That was the scenario that presented itself in Canelo vs GGG 1 - we knew both were great fighters but neither had truly been in with a world elite level opponent until then so they both needed each other to find out who really was elite level and a potential Hall of Fame entree - which of course GGG won but was robbed with the draw.

Unless you don't rate Canelo's accomplishments and his so called P4P number 1 status then you'd have to agree that Golovkin unofficially beating Canelo does indeed determine his legacy - at a time when questions were being asked as to who was the beter fighter Golovkin proved his mettle.

Agree with you on this one.