Who will KO Jaron Ennis first?

[Pago007]

Much ado about nothing. He seem his opponent was visibly hurt and went in to close the show. Took a couple shots to get the stoppage. Name a fighter besides Tbe who doesn't get hit cleanly

[PBR Streetgang]

I like Boots and think he's incredibly talented and skilled fighter. I have noticed that at times he throws caution to the wind in an effort to blast his opponent out of there. He's been caught clean in several fights He's still only 24, hopefully he tightens up some of that reckless behavior as the competition levels increase.

[Get em up]

I think Ennis knows right now highlight reels are the only way he progresses in the public but he will eventually get caught and have to show his grit. How far up he goes before finding the right guy to bomb him is the question. What he lacks and can sharpen in defense he makes up for in speed agility and power. I see big things for him in the sport.

[sunny31]

That’s pretty silly as Mayweather was damn near untouchable in his prime. He really started getting with harder shots at 140+, where he was outweighed in every single fight. Even a small welter like Zab Judah, had a few pounds on Mayweather on fight night.

Ennis is not close to flawless. His defense is very poor. He is currently winning based on offense. The guy gets hit by some really ****** punches, repeatedly. His size is bailing him out of these ****** punches. Someone closer to his size will hit him with something that he will feel.

That's not true, I think he was hit much more as a younger fighter, a lot of that is down to being more aggressive but some of it was definitely down to Floyd gaining experience and know how. Some of his more high contact fights came against Augustus, Chavez, Castillo, and he was certainly more open at prospect stage. Even at 140 he had a bit of a shootout with Corley.

I think his defence really settled down at 147 when he hit his late 20s/early 30s.

Not sure what you are trying to sell here...

Ennis is doing well, we'll find out more as he goes through the levels. Naturally when you go through those levels you will refine and not be as creative with your offense. I don't see him as a KO waiting to happen

[IronDanHamza]

Then they are dumb, if true. Mayweather was untouchable.

Can you please link me to these articles?

The defense between prime Mayweather and prime Ennis are like night and day. It’s not even close. In the Lipinets fight, Ennis makes Mayweather appear like Pernell Whitaker if you compare their defense.

I am just not convinced at all.

Ennis looks good and all, throwing punches with the explosiveness and quickness of Roy Jones, but with the defense of Juan Manuel Lopez.

I've got all the magazines at my house when I'm back there I'll take some pictures and send them to you in a private message.

This was like, 2000-2004 range, perhaps even earlier I don't entirely remember, around the time he called the HBO contract a slave contract, and the narrative was he will never be able to sell PPV's because he's not a draw. The same narrative at the time was he was a KO waiting to happen too. As absurd as it sounds, and it certainly does, it was a common narrative.

I'll send them over to you in the next few days, if I don't, remind me and I will because they're interesting articles considering how wrong they were.

Maybe you're right, to be honest I haven't watched all that much of Ennis. But I would say I'm impressed. Alot of fighters get hit more when they're in another league to their opponents on the come up.

We'll learn more when he steps up.

[TheBoxGod]

I think Ennis power and precision allows him to shine in all his fights but inbetween these rays of shine you see his flaws and that is he gets tagged clean inbetween his shots..... now.... we must ask ourselves is this because Ennis has already assessed the threat and felt the power from the other person and very calculated decided to sacrifice his defense and go for the kill or is that just his style? and if that's just his style I see big trouble in his future when he meets someone he cant KO who just so happens to have a KO punch themselves. Only time will tell.

I believe his biggest threat will be Vergil Ortiz and I do believe they will meet at 154 (I kinda want them to not meet now and meet at 154 for a great showdown).

Ennis imo has the easier path, He's with the pbc route so he going to be able to get a self war torn Spence, a inactive Thurman, a everyone beats porter etc

Ortiz imo has the harder path, He's going to have to face Crawford and then ??? possibly a taylor if he moves up.

But we shall see rumors are that GBP contract with Dazn ends this year and Dazn will not be renewing so that leaves Oscar with just 2 bonafide choices imo showtime and espn. (I dont think espn is really an option cause this was floated awhile ago and it was understood that Bob Arum has a deal with espn where he controls the boxing so Oscar will have to be under Top Rank Umbrella) so the only real option is showtime and imo that best option because now we are going to get the greatest fights again just like when haymon and oscar worked together.

[Tatabanya]

If he manages to avoid getting caught cold, Vergil Ortiz may very well stop Ennis later on.

It's a big "if", though.

[-Kev-]

I think Ennis power and precision allows him to shine in all his fights but inbetween these rays of shine you see his flaws and that is he gets tagged clean inbetween his shots..... now.... we must ask ourselves is this because Ennis has already assessed the threat and felt the power from the other person and very calculated decided to sacrifice his defense and go for the kill or is that just his style? and if that's just his style I see big trouble in his future when he meets someone he cant KO who just so happens to have a KO punch themselves. Only time will tell.

I believe his biggest threat will be Vergil Ortiz and I do believe they will meet at 154 (I kinda want them to not meet now and meet at 154 for a great showdown).

Ennis imo has the easier path, He's with the pbc route so he going to be able to get a self war torn Spence, a inactive Thurman, a everyone beats porter etc

Ortiz imo has the harder path, He's going to have to face Crawford and then ??? possibly a taylor if he moves up.

But we shall see rumors are that GBP contract with Dazn ends this year and Dazn will not be renewing so that leaves Oscar with just 2 bonafide choices imo showtime and espn. (I dont think espn is really an option cause this was floated awhile ago and it was understood that Bob Arum has a deal with espn where he controls the boxing so Oscar will have to be under Top Rank Umbrella) so the only real option is showtime and imo that best option because now we are going to get the greatest fights again just like when haymon and oscar worked together.

No, it’s a flaw that has been there since the amateurs. His defensive flaws have always been there. It’s not an assessment that he makes and says “oh, my opponent sucks, I can be defensively irresponsible”.

For example, the amateurs are the amateurs, losses there aren’t a big deal. What is a big deal however, is if you keep doing the same mistakes in the pros that you did in the amateurs.

You can see the same exact issues with his defensive holes vs Gary Antuanne Russell where he was outworked and stayed wide open, losing a close fight. Lost 3 times to Gary Russell. He did the same exact mistakes vs Gary Russell that I saw him do vs Lipinets.

Of course his strengths got better, but his weakness is still there. It looks like that will always be his flaw. It does not look like something he will ever change.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Name a fighter besides Tbe who doesn't get hit cleanly

Lol lol Reading that part made me laugh lol lol lol

[TheBoxGod]

No, it’s a flaw that has been there since the amateurs. His defensive flaws have always been there. It’s not an assessment that he makes and says “oh, my opponent sucks, I can be defensively irresponsible”.

For example, the amateurs are the amateurs, losses there aren’t a big deal. What is a big deal however, is if you keep doing the same mistakes in the pros that you did in the amateurs.

You can see the same exact issues with his defensive holes vs Gary Antuanne Russell where he was outworked and stayed wide open, losing a close fight. Lost 3 times to Gary Russell. He did the same exact mistakes vs Gary Russell that I saw him do vs Lipinets.

Of course his strengths got better, but his weakness is still there. It looks like that will always be his flaw. It does not look like something he will ever change.

I'll check out them fights, i didnt follow Ennis in the amatuers, but yes if its like you say it is,, he is in for trouble as if its been this long with that its now a ingrained habit.