Can guys with 25 losses or more be top 25 ATG's

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  • JAB5239
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    #41
    Originally posted by The_Executioner
    Alfredo Escalera, Jose Luis Ramirez, Ruben Castillo appear to be Arguello's best wins...

    Evander's are probably Rid**** Bowe, Mike Tyson, and Michael Moorer...

    I haven't seen enough Arguello to say for sure really...Evander is the only 4-time champ tho
    He's also got Marcel, Boza-Edwards, Chacon, Limon Oliveres. His resume is stacked with tough fighters, but yeah, those were probably his best.

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      #42
      Originally posted by The_Executioner




      I won't put it 1-10 cuz some might debate it...

      James Toney
      Bernard Hopkins
      Mike McCallum
      Virgil Hill
      Antonio Tarver
      John Ruiz
      Glen Johnson
      Clinton Woods
      Montell Griffin
      Vinny Pazienza or Felix Trinidad(well washed up Trinidad)

      It may be close...both had higher weight supremacy....Roy went from 160 to heavyweight
      You must be thinking of Bernards resume. Glen Johnson KTFO Roy. or maybe you're just listing his opponents? well if you include Johnson it might have a negative impact on the list

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        #43
        Arguello lost to Marcel apparently...but Chacon looks to be a solid name

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          #44
          Originally posted by miron_lang
          You must be thinking of Bernards resume. Glen Johnson KTFO Roy. or maybe you're just listing his opponents? well if you include Johnson it might have a negative impact on the list
          Yeah that was a mistake Maybe Thomas Tate instead...

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            #45
            Originally posted by The_Executioner
            Arguello lost to Marcel apparently...but Chacon looks to be a solid name
            If memory serves, Chacon, Limon and Boza-edwards were just a notch below Arguello but took turns being in some of the best fights of the 80's. I know Chacon and Limon fought at least 4 times in some epic battles, and Boza-Edwards was mixed in their some how too. I'd have to look it up to be more accurate.

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              #46
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              If memory serves, Chacon, Limon and Boza-edwards were just a notch below Arguello but took turns being in some of the best fights of the 80's. I know Chacon and Limon fought at least 4 times in
              some epic battles, and Boza-Edwards was mixed in their some how too. I'd have to look it up to be more accurate.

              You can include Rolando Navarette as one of the victim of Arguello. Navarette Kayoed Boza Edwards to win the Jr. Lightweight Championship which he lost to Limon on his 2nd defense.

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                #47
                Originally posted by miron_lang
                You can include Rolando Navarette as one of the victim of Arguello. Navarette Kayoed Boza Edwards to win the Jr. Lightweight Championship which he lost to Limon on his 2nd defense.
                I was noticing Naverette while digging through other names. Can't say Im very familiar with him, but I can say that 130 was a stacked division in the late 70's early 80's.

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                  #48
                  Former light heavyweight champion and ATG Maxie Rosenbloom. 222wins 22 losses. But the real kicker is that only 19 of those wins are by KO

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                    #49
                    Sam Langford did go 47-1 during his prime years, only losing to Sam McVea who was a 220 pound heavyweight compared to Langford who was a middleweight/light heavyweight at the time.

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                      #50
                      Anybody got more opinions on this subject?

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