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  • dan_cov
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    #1

    Is this the new Fury or

    was the size and style specifically for Wilder?

    I think Fury is the best HW (certainly based on accomplishments and such) but that version last night wasn't. It was effective but as a Fury fan I'm a little concerned moving forward.

    The plan was obviously to come in heavy, maul bird legs, lay on him and wear him out but I am hoping this isn't Fury having to adapt and revamp his style because to me he looked very slow, sluggish. His upper body movement was nothing like we're used to seeing and he was getting hit by some silly stuff by his standards.

    Its more entertaining for fans but I am a bit dubious of this new 'Kronk' style Fury. I wouldn't even call it that its more Khabib style.

    I think Usyk and Sanchez would cause him fits if he prepares and plans to fight in such a manner then again can he even box with them?
    Don't get it twisted thinking he took Wilders shots, there are different types of power and these guys are much faster, more precise and fire off angles. They don't load up like Wilder.
    I am very disappointed Fury walked into that shot, **** happens, moment of madness maybe he switched off for a second but I thought it was a silly shot to get hit with and he did repeatably after. I just think he is a better fighter than that.

    I'm intrigued I think Usyk and Sanchez's lateral movement, faints, level changing can negate Furys mauling and leaning tactics. They're not going to remain stationary, leaning in or throwing shots from too far out.
    I'm hoping he employed this in both fights as he seen the obvious holes in Wilders game and no two fights are the same but I am not sure similar strategies work with Usyk or Sanchez, I think it plays into their strengths.
    Neither will be leaning in inviting it. They will be constantly moving, fainting, setting traps and both have much faster feet and hands than a 277lb Fury. Tyson is very fast for a 6'9 guy but last night he looked more like a typical 6'9 guy.

    I don't care who wins these 3 are my favourite HWs. I have no dog in these fights.
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    I think with their movement and speed advantages as well as being smaller men he will adopt similar tactics and try and maul them and wear them out.
    I am just not convinced it works or another ref is going to allow it if it did.

    I think both Usyk and Sanchez might be a little wrong for him.
    A bit too fast, too athletic and dare I say just too skilled.

    I think they're totally different animals from a headhunting basic and rather stationary guy like Wlad or Wilder who can't fight at mid-range or the inside.
    These two are constantly moving side-to-side and setting traps, high IQ counterpunchers with blazing fast hands that can fight at all ranges.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      He needs to lose weight. He's way too heavy, looked slow and sluggish last night.

      He needs to be about 250 lbs. He was 247 lbs against Klitschko and that is by far the best he's ever looked physically. Being 30 lbs heavier than he was that night isn't good.

      He had 2 years out the ring so I'm going to put certain things down to that aswell.

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        #4
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        He needs to lose weight. He's way too heavy, looked slow and sluggish last night.

        He needs to be about 250 lbs. He was 247 lbs against Klitschko and that is by far the best he's ever looked physically. Being 30 lbs heavier than he was that night isn't good.

        He had 2 years out the ring so I'm going to put certain things down to that aswell.
        Fury wasnt even in top shape and he just got over covert-19. the shape he was in was in between the first and second fight AND HE STILL WON

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        • Toffee
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          He's not suddenly a finisher.

          He had a dead man in front of him in his last two fights and didn't try to finish him. He continued to grind him down, jab, lean, wrestle. Low risk kind of stuff.

          'New Fury' isn't that dissimilar to 'Old Fury'.

          He was a bit more aggressive against Wilder because that was right against a man who can only fight one way, at range. But otherwise he was consistent with the rest of his career.

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            #6
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            He needs to lose weight. He's way too heavy, looked slow and sluggish last night.

            He needs to be about 250 lbs. He was 247 lbs against Klitschko and that is by far the best he's ever looked physically. Being 30 lbs heavier than he was that night isn't good.

            He had 2 years out the ring so I'm going to put certain things down to that aswell.

            Good point, I forgot about his inactivity & him having Covid though by his own admission he didn't experience any side effects but loss of taste. I think he would take a similar approach vs AJ but for me he definitely needs to come in lighter especially against faster, elusive HWs or he could be left chasing shadows.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Toffee
              He's not suddenly a finisher.

              He had a dead man in front of him in his last two fights and didn't try to finish him. He continued to grind him down, jab, lean, wrestle. Low risk kind of stuff.

              'New Fury' isn't that dissimilar to 'Old Fury'.

              He was a bit more aggressive against Wilder because that was right against a man who can only fight one way, at range. But otherwise he was consistent with the rest of his career.
              So the Fury that beat Klitschko is the same Fury that just pulverised Wilder? Completely different styles.

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              • deathofaclown
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                He will change accordingly for the opponent, at least tactically. He knows exactly how to beat Wilder, so he did what he had to. To beat Wilder, you have to take risks.

                He beat Wlad and Wilder in two different styles. Don’t think he couldn’t find a style to beat Usyk and others. He would.

                None of today’s heavyweights beat him.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  He needs to lose weight. He's way too heavy, looked slow and sluggish last night.

                  He needs to be about 250 lbs. He was 247 lbs against Klitschko and that is by far the best he's ever looked physically. Being 30 lbs heavier than he was that night isn't good.

                  He had 2 years out the ring so I'm going to put certain things down to that aswell.
                  He was sleeping on a hospital floor for 2 weeks just 6 or 7 weeks ago and not training because his daughter was in intensive care

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                  • Toffee
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by denium

                    So the Fury that beat Klitschko is the same Fury that just pulverised Wilder? Completely different styles.
                    Well I'm sure we'd agree there's a world of difference between Wilder and Klitschko. Both in style and level.

                    But regardless, 'Kronk Fury' isn't going out there to finish anyone off in a hurry. He uses his size/length/weight and sticks to his gameplan.

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