Can Manny Pacquiao Surpass Sugar Ray Leonard in the ATG List?

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    #41
    Originally posted by strugler
    lets not pretend he didnt have controversial wins............against hearns and hagler...........MAB, JMM, Morales, PBF, Cotto, doesnt exactly have the same style..............
    How was Hearns a controversial win? He was beating the **** outta him in that round...

    And I was speaking for right now...as of right now he hasn't fought as many diff styles as SRL...

    And Hearns and Hagler are clearly better than Floyd, Cotto, Barrera and the others...

    And then you throw Benitez in there...

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      #42
      Originally posted by strugler
      lets not pretend he didnt have controversial wins............against hearns and hagler...........MAB, JMM, Morales, PBF, Cotto, doesnt exactly have the same style..............
      yeah but pacquiao had controversial wins also

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        #43
        Originally posted by strugler
        what will clinch it for pacquiao is PBF.................Cotto and shane could be argued ruined and old...............if PBF looks impressive against jmm..............an "if" he loss to pac and beat some legit WW.......itll make PACS resume at par if not better than SRL imo..........
        I Have to respectfully disagree my friend. At no time will Pac have beaten a fighter the caliber of Benitez or Hearns at their peak like Ray did. Throw in a top 10 All timer and a top 25 all timer and his work is cut out for him even if he were to beat Floyd who just barely cracks the top 50 IMO.

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          #44
          Originally posted by GrandMasterP
          personally i think trying to compare pacquiao to the top 20 atg's is ridiculous
          i mean pac is a great fighter but cmon...
          ....is that all you could come up with why pac could not surpass leonard?....

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            #45
            Originally posted by The_Executioner
            How was Hearns a controversial win? He was beating the **** outta him in that round...


            the second fight............................

            And I was speaking for right now...as of right now he hasn't fought as many diff styles as SRL...

            And Hearns and Hagler are clearly better than Floyd, Cotto, Barrera and the others...


            And then you throw Benitez in there...

            But fact is SRL didnt rematch hagler..........


            Originally posted by GrandMasterP
            yeah but pacquiao had controversial wins also
            exactly my point...............just like SRL had his...................

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              #46
              Originally posted by JM1
              hows that ridiculous?
              dude are you serious!!!
              ok how do you rate JMM on atg's if you even rate him as one

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                #47
                Originally posted by strugler
                But fact is SRL didnt rematch hagler..........
                That doesn't diminish his resume...maybe his legacy a bit


                Even if you take away Hagler...you still have Duran, Hearns, and Benitez...one is a top 10 maybe top 5 ATG...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by GrandMasterP
                  dude are you serious!!!
                  ok how do you rate JMM on atg's if you even rate him as one
                  im serious with my question. why dont you go ahead and answer instead of throwing a question back to me

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by GrandMasterP
                    yeah but pacquiao had controversial wins also
                    only vs jmm...thats one guy.....leonard has hearns , hagler and benitez.....

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by baracuda
                      ....is that all you could come up with why pac could not surpass leonard?....
                      how high do you rate JMM on a list of atg's if you even rate him as one

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