Can Manny Pacquiao Surpass Sugar Ray Leonard in the ATG List?

[GrandMasterP]

could it be because you dont really have a personal atg list and you dont know most of them anyways even if you do?.....

and if you're trying to discredit me and say i dont know about boxing you're in for a surprise boy

[Freddy Krueger]

He could lose against Cotto and Floyd and still rank past SRL in my opinion, its not like SRL didn't lose to good fighters like Duran and etc. People emphasize about losses too much, look at the fighters they lost too first. If he did lose he is losing to a good/great fighter.

[-EX-]

WTF......MAB,JMM, Morales,PBF?,.......................greater than delahoya.....not the resume per se but the ability to perform........JMM is debatable.................imo..............ATG is subjective...........BHOP,RJJ and Evander shouldnt be shoe in top 20 if delahoya is in the top100

Marquez's resume is not on the level of DLH's

Morales and Barrera could crack the ATG list...Floyd cracks it at the tail end...


We can't jus choose to disclude all the black and white(old time) fighters...

[GrandMasterP]

He could lose against Cotto and Floyd and still rank past SRL in my opinion, its not like SRL didn't lose to good fighters like Duran and etc. People emphasize about losses too much, look at the fighters they lost too first. If he did lose he is losing to a good/great fighter.

you're right
but manny hasnt even stepped in the ring with anyone even close to duran

[strugler]

Like I said my man, I don't think its impossible for Pac to surpass Leonard, only improbable.

i was talking about the 2nd fight...................

PAC has had controversies of his own...................marquez fight will hound him

He didnt give Marvin a rematch..........thats what bothered me about ray.............say what you will about pac but facts are MAB x2, JMMx2, El terrible x3......................

[-EX-]

He could lose against Cotto and Floyd and still rank past SRL in my opinion, its not like SRL didn't lose to good fighters like Duran and etc. People emphasize about losses too much, look at the fighters they lost too first. If he did lose he is losing to a good/great fighter.

So a person could move up on an ATG list even by losing?


I don't know why ya'll think beating someone more than once improves your resume...Leonard beat Duran twice but the 3rd fight doesn't make his resume better...

That's like Floyd KOing Hatton and then rematching him now and winning again...it doesn't make his resume better...

[GrandMasterP]

Marquez's resume is not on the level of DLH's

Morales and Barrera could crack the ATG list...Floyd cracks it at the tail end...


We can't jus choose to disclude all the black and white(old time) fighters...

i think the top 20 are almost untouchable
boxing now isnt what it used to be

[strugler]

Marquez's resume is not on the level of DLH's

Morales and Barrera could crack the ATG list...Floyd cracks it at the tail end...


We can't jus choose to disclude all the black and white(old time) fighters...

yep but........we cant give them special treatment as well..........i dont know how to balance it fairly tbh..............

[GrandMasterP]

i was talking about the 2nd fight...................

PAC has had controversies of his own...................marquez fight will hound him

He didnt give Marvin a rematch..........thats what bothered me about ray.............say what you will about pac but facts are MAB x2, JMMx2, El terrible x3......................

pac doesnt want a rematch with marquez
and pac lost to morales and only won once against marquez technically, didnt win at all to many

[guzi815]

One can not compare Sugar Ray Leonard to anybody of today. Ray Leonard fought 15 rounders and fought all the great Welter Weights. Thanks to DLH, Mayweather, and greedy promoters...it's all about the pay day. Todays fighters have greater skills, training technique, etc,....but don't have half the heart, and determination, the 'ol timers had.