Can Manny Pacquiao Surpass Sugar Ray Leonard in the ATG List?

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  • baracuda
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    #51
    Originally posted by GrandMasterP
    dude are you serious!!!
    ok how do you rate JMM on atg's if you even rate him as one
    first,let's see your atg list......

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    • GrandMasterP
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      #52
      Originally posted by JM1
      im serious with my question. why dont you go ahead and answer instead of throwing a question back to me
      because i need to see the way you're looking at things

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      • GrandMasterP
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        #53
        Originally posted by baracuda
        only vs jmm...thats one guy.....leonard has hearns , hagler and benitez.....
        yeah i know
        but thats why duran is still seen as better than duran even though he technically lost to him

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        • KingTito
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          #54
          If he beats Cotto, Floyd and JMM impressively in a third match then yea, I can see it.

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            #55
            Duran is flat out better than anyone Pacquiao has ever fought...


            And Hearns is better than anyone Pacquiao has ever fought...

            Duran and Hearns would go thru Pac's resume undefeated...even if you threw Floyd and Cotto in there...

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            • GrandMasterP
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              #56
              Originally posted by baracuda
              first,let's see your atg list......
              i would have guys like pac, jmm, mab, and em barely cracking 50

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              • Pullcounter
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                #57
                Originally posted by JM1
                lets say he beats cotto then beats floyd, as a pac fan i still cant see him getting a better place in the ATG list. sugar ray beat everyone he needs to beat. benitez, duran, hearns, and hagler. skill wise, sugar ray is also better. pac maybe able to match up srl's resume if he beats mosley
                he's gonna need to beat pbf and mosley.... then it'd get really interesting.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  I Have to respectfully disagree my friend. At no time will Pac have beaten a fighter the caliber of Benitez or Hearns at their peak like Ray did. Throw in a top 10 All timer and a top 25 all timer and his work is cut out for him even if he were to beat Floyd who just barely cracks the top 50 IMO.

                  he had a gift against hearns......he didnt rematch marvin..............i do give him props coming from retirement........heres my argument if he destroys Cotto, Mosley and PBF.....thats a big IF..............and PBF and Cotto continue to have good wins hes at par with SRL.......we really cant argue mythical matchup...........its too complicated

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                  • GrandMasterP
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The_Executioner
                    Duran is flat out better than anyone Pacquiao has ever fought...


                    And Hearns is better than anyone Pacquiao has ever fought...

                    Duran and Hearns would go thru Pac's resume undefeated...even if you threw Floyd and Cotto in there...
                    real **** man

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by KingTito
                      If he beats Cotto, Floyd and JMM impressively in a third match then yea, I can see it.
                      I don't see why you would bump his resume up if he beats Marquez again when he beat him already...

                      Now if he beat Berto(if Berto becomes a force in the WW division) then it could be a discussion...

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