Mike Tyson claims he would’ve beaten Usyk and AJ in his prime

[BangEM]

What a load of bollocks lol

The sport has moved on from the 70s, would Arthur Ashe beat Novak Djokovic at tennis?

Ali got dropped by local club bouncer Chuck Wepner, but he would dominate the 6ft9 280lb skilled beast Tyson Fury? Not happening son.

Fury struggles against small men with quick feet. Ali would be a nightmare for Fury even if he were to use roughhouse tactics and lean on him. Ali will catch him with something short.

Foreman was the best at roughhouse tactics and he had one of the greatest jabs in history and a bomb on his right hand but Ali knocked him out.

[Tatabanya]

The anti-Tyson brigade keeps calling him a quitter, mostly based on the second Holyfield fight.

In reality, Tyson quit only once: in his last fight against Kevin McBride. And right then and there, he also quit boxing.

His other defeats:

Buster Douglas: having not trained seriously for an opponent perceived as unthreatening, still Tyson didn't quit, he was outfought and knocked out. And he knocked Douglas down in the 8th round, lest one forgets.
Evander Holyfield I: he fought hard until the very end before succumbing.
Evander Holyfield II: he snapped in a round he was winning handily.
Lennox Lewis: a beyond shot, bankrupt, drugged Tyson tries his best but gets overwhelmed and knocked out - not without effort - by the best heavyweight of that period.
Danny Williams: everybody conveniently forgets that in the first round Tyson injured a knee after having lifted Williams from the ground with an uppercut. After the first round his mobility was severely reduced, and Williams knocked him out exclusively for that reason.

And - speaking of factual correctness - D'Amato was named CUS, not Gus.

[Stuntman Mike]

What a load of bollocks lol

The sport has moved on from the 70s, would Arthur Ashe beat Novak Djokovic at tennis?

Ali got dropped by local club bouncer Chuck Wepner, but he would dominate the 6ft9 280lb skilled beast Tyson Fury? Not happening son.

And fury was flattened by pavjic and cunningham ...was ali schooled by Brian London like fury was schooled by mcdermott

Or was it complacency like fury with pavjic

let's say Ken Norton was Alis wallin shall we? To fit your agenda

I admit in other sports drugs are making a huge impact but in boxing, skills heart and chin make up for a lot at elite level fighting

Some things you'll struggle to find an injection for


Also with evolution as times go on humans are only evolving into a softer species not tougher

[BangEM]

The anti-Tyson brigade keeps calling him a quitter, mostly based on the second Holyfield fight.

In reality, Tyson quit only once: in his last fight against Kevin McBride. And right then and there, he also quit boxing.

His other defeats:

Buster Douglas: having not trained seriously for an opponent perceived as unthreatening, still Tyson didn't quit, he was outfought and knocked out. And he knocked Douglas down in the 8th round, lest one forgets.
Evander Holyfield I: he fought hard until the very end before succumbing.
Evander Holyfield II: he snapped in a round he was winning handily.
Lennox Lewis: a beyond shot, bankrupt, drugged Tyson tries his best but gets overwhelmed and knocked out - not without effort - by the best heavyweight of that period.
Danny Williams: everybody conveniently forgets that in the first round Tyson injured a knee after having lifted Williams from the ground with an uppercut. After the first round his mobility was severely reduced, and Williams knocked him out exclusively for that reason.

And - speaking of factual correctness - D'Amato was named CUS, not Gus.

He quitted against Holyfield when he decided to bite his ear off because he wasn't having his way

Against Lennox, I believe he could've got up after the KD that became the KO. He just refused to get up because he was taking a lot of punishment. That's a quit job.

[Frankie Coffeecake]

He quitted against Holyfield when he decided to bite his ear off because he wasn't having his way

Against Lennox, I believe he could've got up after the KD that became the KO. He just refused to get up because he was taking a lot of punishment. That's a quit job.

He quit vs Williams also

That's at least 3 quits.

He didn't quit in holyfield 1 but he was broken and scared

I wouldn't even mind so much if he didn't have this ferocious reputation but I get sick of the excuse making for Tyson and the fantasy land the Tyson fanboys live in.

[Tatabanya]

He quitted against Holyfield when he decided to bite his ear off because he wasn't having his way

Against Lennox, I believe he could've got up after the KD that became the KO. He just refused to get up because he was taking a lot of punishment. That's a quit job.

The third round of the second Holyfield fight will be debated forever, and the result will always be the same: he quit / he didn't quit depending on the bias.

In regard to the Lewis fight, Tyson was already beaten to a pulp in the eight round. He stayed down due to exhaustion, if you ask me. Still, Lewis had to literally push him to the ground to end the fight, as groggy as Tyson was.

[Tatabanya]

He quit vs Williams also

That's at least 3 quits.

He didn't quit in holyfield 1 but he was broken and scared

I wouldn't even mind so much if he didn't have this ferocious reputation but I get sick of the excuse making for Tyson and the fantasy land the Tyson fanboys live in.

Roberto Duran had a ferocious reputation as well - still has - and he lost SIXTEEN times, one of them in the most famous quit job in the history of boxing. And, make no mistake, I love Duran madly.

I could quote more "ferocious reputations" who lost a lot. If you think that a fighter should never lose a fight based on popular perception, you're on the wrong path.

[deathofaclown]

Tyson v Usyk would be interesting.

Tyson v AJ..well, AJ is timid so that’s not going to end well. The way to beat Tyson was no fear, then you could get to him. If he was petrified of Ruiz and a cruiserweight, then he wouldn’t last with Tyson. Even if he had the physical attributes, he won’t have the mental game for that one.

I love Tyson but he could be one of the most overrated fighters ever. He’s the casual fan’s idea of the best. There’s loads of fighters I’d pick to beat him, even probably Usyk. AJ isn’t one of them though.

[Tatabanya]

I love Tyson but he could be one of the most overrated fighters ever. He’s the casual fan’s idea of the best. There’s loads of fighters I’d pick to beat him, even probably Usyk. AJ isn’t one of them though.

Tyson's sheer aura defined an era, that's why casuals will say that he's the best ever.

However, knowledgeable boxing observers - namely, those who really STUDY boxing - know that he was, at the very least, a great fighter.

[hugh grant]

In his prime he beat some good fighters like bonecrusher smith, Tony tucker, but fell against the top tier.
I think Tyson would. If I was betting man id pick him against josh but not sure about usyk but yes, against usyk also. I've not seen enough of usyk at heavyweight