Mike Tyson claims he would’ve beaten Usyk and AJ in his prime

[Stuntman Mike]

You lot need to stop the Cus nonsense. Boxers change trainers all the time. It’s not like Cus was a HoF trainer that led countless HWs to greatness before Mike Tyson and Cus was already dead by the time Tyson started winning titles.

Tyson was just an overrated fighter who couldn’t go past 5-6 rds. Once you take him to the later rds, he becomes useless. And he was very one dimensional.

I believe he’d have bitten Usyk’s ear off as well after getting tagged all night with a straight left.

Haha are you actually serious? Chisora put heat on usyk and he didn't respond too kindly prime tyson would have polaxed usyk by the 3rd or 6th


And Joshua couldn't handle the inside hooks of ruiz you think he'd last two mins against tyson...look how easy povetkin got to Joshua at time..Joshua couldn't keep him at bay either so he would never keep tyson at bay..

Respect where respect is due its just stylistically tyson is a nightmare for both men

[BangEM]

Actually he led 2 and I'm not talking about the Emanuael Steward way of leading by attaching himself to an established fighter, he molded Patterson and Tyson. And those are his hw champs. He took a 13 from the streets and made him champ in 7 years. As for Tyson not being able to go past 5-6 rounds, he won the WBA and IBF on 12 round decisions. Joshua is **** and I've told you guys this for the longest. The current hw division is ****. Usyk has skill, but the "holy trinity" of Fury, Wilder, and Joshua are not that good and I've always felt that way. They're just big.

My bad, I forgot about Patterson. However, Patterson and Tyson were two completely different fighters - different styles and different mentalities. Tyson was a weak mental midget who quits when things get rough. Tyson gave up every time it's time to dig deep from the deep end. Patterson on the other hand would dig deep whenever he needed to. Tyson also could fight for more than 5-6 rds while Patterson was a 12 rds fighter. Funny how a lot of Americans think AJ is soft but he does have more heart than Tyson ever had.

Anyway, Gus was dead by the time Tyson became a champ. And he went to be become the youngest undisputed champ without Gus. So he obviously didn't need Gus to get to the top - why make the Gus excuse when he started losing?

[Stuntman Mike]

Mike Tyson is badly overrated tbh.

Fury would definitely have beaten him and i could see Usyk and Joshua doing it as well.

Joshua is only 50/50 because he might've been intimidated by Mike, and guys were beaten before they got in the ring against him. The first guy who stood up to Mike knocked him out.

Yeah because everyone who tyson faced trained their butt off for 3 months or so but threw the fight in the ring...

They might have been nervous because of the monumental task and talent they were up against but that's a bull**** excuse..let's say Joshua was nervous against ruiz and usyk and take the credit away from their wins too


You're discrediting past fighters to make your favorite fighter today something in your head which he isn't...today's heavyweights are not leagues above the past and usyk showed that

Muhammed Ali in his prime 64 to 67 wpuld dominate all 3 of the fighters today ....he was leagues above usyk in speed and smarts and naturally fitted at 220 odd pounds..he would toy with wilder Joshua and Fury

People seem to forget how good past greats were...

When wladimir was on top his fans did the same thing to make themselves believe they were watching greatness..just a shame we weren't about in the 70s the best era of heavyweight boxers and killers

[BangEM]

Mike Tyson is badly overrated tbh.

Fury would definitely have beaten him and i could see Usyk and Joshua doing it as well.

Joshua is only 50/50 because he might've been intimidated by Mike, and guys were beaten before they got in the ring against him. The first guy who stood up to Mike knocked him out.

You're right about that part. AJ overcompensates and shows insecurities when he doesn't need to. I started pointing that out when he went to the US before he fought Andy Ruiz based on how he was acting star struck for being in the US as the centre of attention. Yes, we all grew up in the UK watching Americans on TV with fairytales about American glitz and glam since faux imagery is what America was built on for soft power and the country is a celebrity country. However, when it's time for business - you have to put your game-face on and own the attention because you're the star of the show. Against Usyk, he did the same thing by acting like a fan of the guy and he was showing him too much respect. You just don't do that. He did the same against Wlad as well.

In boxing, you don't show your opponents no respect. It doesn't mean you have to be disrespectful/loud - you just treat them like you're there to take their heads off. Keep a straight face at all times and show authority. Boxing is about 60% mental.

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Yeah because everyone who tyson faced trained their butt off for 3 months or so but threw the fight in the ring...

They might have been nervous because of the monumental task and talent they were up against but that's a bull**** excuse..let's say Joshua was nervous against ruiz and usyk and take the credit away from their wins too


You're discrediting past fighters to make your favorite fighter today something in your head which he isn't...today's heavyweights are not leagues above the past and usyk showed that

Muhammed Ali in his prime 64 to 67 wpuld dominate all 3 of the fighters today ....he was leagues above usyk in speed and smarts and naturally fitted at 220 odd pounds..he would toy with wilder Joshua and Fury

People seem to forget how good past greats were...

When wladimir was on top his fans did the same thing to make themselves believe they were watching greatness..just a shame we weren't about in the 70s the best era of heavyweight boxers and killers

What a load of bollocks lol

The sport has moved on from the 70s, would Arthur Ashe beat Novak Djokovic at tennis?

Ali got dropped by local club bouncer Chuck Wepner, but he would dominate the 6ft9 280lb skilled beast Tyson Fury? Not happening son.

[Stuntman Mike]

Mike Tyson is badly overrated tbh.

Fury would definitely have beaten him and i could see Usyk and Joshua doing it as well.

Joshua is only 50/50 because he might've been intimidated by Mike, and guys were beaten before they got in the ring against him. The first guy who stood up to Mike knocked him out.

and tyson fury isn't overrated... the guy beat a fading wlad who already looked old over night against jennings his fight prior..then ducked out because he's the mentally weakest heavyweight champ...not once defended his belt

Then beats a guy that got his brains boxed in by Luiz oldtiz...not to mention wilder started boxing at 25 years of age

And furyand his fans hace been riding that win acting like he beat some sort of George foreman force in the ring ...

Boxing is different today..

Back then there was one belt foreman rose to the top knocking out proper contenders to earn his shot and kod and atg to win the belt

Wilder was handed a belt defended it against a heap of bums who wouldn't have lasted 3 mins with George foreman every single one of them..

Finally comes up against a decent boxer in ortiz and gets absolutely schooled and lucky with one punch (the old man's lungs didn't help ortiz either)

Then finally fury steps up and beats the bum killer


Some legacy that ..boxing today is a ****ing joke


The last guy to do it right was Carl froch now that's a British champion..cut from old cloth unlike these heavyweight bitches

[Smash]

so mike thinks they both had a bad day at the office wtf, if mike thinks that was bad from usyk i dont know what standards he sets for a boxer!!!!

[BangEM]

Haha are you actually serious? Chisora put heat on usyk and he didn't respond too kindly prime tyson would have polaxed usyk by the 3rd or 6th

And Joshua couldn't handle the inside hooks of ruiz you think he'd last two mins against tyson...look how easy povetkin got to Joshua at time..Joshua couldn't keep him at bay either so he would never keep tyson at bay..

Respect where respect is due its just stylistically tyson is a nightmare for both men

People think Chisora did well against Usyk because he was aggressive but he didn't land anything apart from probably a couple of punches that hit Usyk on the shoulders. He was just swinging wide and missing. Also, Usyk has been studying AJ for years and it's different fighting a boxer you have thoroughly targeted for years and broken down to exploit his weakness than some guy you know you can beat and fought on the fly. He'll box the one-dimensional Tyson's head off.

Ruiz didn't start landing hooks until AJ got the KD and decided to hook with a hooker. Put it in context. And Povetkin was more skilled/crafty as a boxer than Tyson was. Tyson was very one-dimensional and he fought at one pace.

[Stuntman Mike]

Mike Tysons best win was over an old Larry Holmes who had 5 weeks to train and took the fight for a quick payday.

Outside of that he lost to every top fighter he faced, he quit several times in fights, and couldn't handle any adversity.

Could he beat them? Yes

Could they beat him? Yes

Tyson was a one trick pony, be intimidating, come out and go nuts, and if an opponent figured out how to get through that and hit him back he quit.

Quit Tyson, and he's feeling himself now that he's back on the juice I see.

Tyson was into lots of different things...had way more mental problems than fury who everyone holds a Hugh regard for speaking about his mental weakness when in fact tyson had so much more going on in his head that he kept to himself...
lets just imagine the physiological pressure tyson had once he started partying (way more than fury I would say)

The depression anger ,trust issues close to murdering people...yet with all these problems never stepped away from the ring ..let that sink in

everyone keeps acting like tysons opponents rolled over before the fight.. completely discrediting his wins for some agenda to make today's heavyweights better ..gas lighting stuff


If tyson wasn't so talented then fear wouldnt be an issue

Tyson would have Bruno'd Joshua
Spink'd usyk
marvis frazier'd wilder(if fury can put the heat on wilder and he can't react to furys punches on the inside I believe tyson would have had wilder out in a round)
and Berbick'd fury

[Nash out]

The man got outboxed then knocked out by Douglas in his prime. Joshua would smash Douglas to pieces, and Usyk is so much better than Tyson it's insulting to put him in the same sentence as him. Nash out.