Mike Tyson claims he would’ve beaten Usyk and AJ in his prime

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  • Tatabanya
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    #111
    Originally posted by Nash out

    I loved Tyson back in the day, but, just like with Prince Naseem, who I also loved, neither were as good as we all hoped. Tyson was past it in losing his latter fights, but the excuses for the Douglas loss by many of his fans, are not excused by me, he lost, fair and square, he was completely outboxed, and then knocked out, only having any success at all in the round he knocked Douglas down, and boxing is not a stop watch count, it's a referees count, which is almost always slower. And as I said, Tyson was rated higher than Holyfield, and he should have been on that level or above it, but he was well below. Nash out.
    What you still seem not to understand is that I was NOT justifying Tyson's defeats in my first post. I am well aware of the reasons behind those defeats.

    My point was, he WASN'T a quitter like most Tyson haters (and, surprisingly, even some experts) keep saying. Tyson had limits like any other fighter, lost fair and square several times as you just said, but he NEVER quit except in his very last fight against McBride.

    Also, the fact that people keep mentioning Tyson's fights against Lewis, Danny Williams and McBride as a proof of his inability is utterly ridiculous. Tyson was a shell in his final years, not only the shell of the fighter he used to be, he was the shell of a man. Drugs, alcohol, bankruptcy. Do we judge Sugar Ray Robinson by the final part of his career, when he was losing against bums?
    Last edited by Tatabanya; 09-29-2021, 10:31 AM.

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    • Nash out
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      #112
      Originally posted by Tatabanya

      What you still seem not to understand is that I was NOT justifying Tyson's defeats in my first post. I am well aware of the reasons behind those defeats.

      My point was, he WASN'T a quitter like most Tyson haters (and, surprisingly, even some experts) keep saying. Tyson had limits like any other fighter, lost fair and square several times as you just said, but he NEVER quit except in his very last fight against McBride.

      Also, the fact that people keep mentioning Tyson's fights against Lewis, Danny Williams and McBride as a proof of his inability is utterly ridiculous. Tyson was a shell in his final years, not only the shell of the fighter he used to be, he was the shell of a man. Drugs, alcohol, bankruptcy. Do we judge Sugar Ray Robinson by the final part of his career, when he was losing against bums?
      I know, I didn't fully read your post the first time, but my further comments are more in general. Like any fighter in history could just use Asian whores and not being serious as an excuse for every loss. A fight is a fight. Who's to say Douglas wasn't eating Asian cuisine himself? Nash out.

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      • MikeyMike100
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        #113
        Originally posted by denium
        Mike Tyson is badly overrated tbh.

        Fury would definitely have beaten him and i could see Usyk and Joshua doing it as well.

        Joshua is only 50/50 because he might've been intimidated by Mike, and guys were beaten before they got in the ring against him. The first guy who stood up to Mike knocked him out.
        Ya so this is where I disagree. Joshua has almost no chance of winning.

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        • Silence
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          #114
          He would beat bodybuilder.

          Tyson vs Usyk is interesting fight. Usyk's footwork, head movement and southpaw stance could frustrate him. Tyson had some stamina issues in his prime. Better than Joshua tho. Tyson vs Usyk is 50/50 or 55/45 Tyson.

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          • hhh1200
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            #115
            Slumps Usyk like Spinks and gives AJ the Trevor experience. Definitely, during his undisputed run, he smokes both of them. Remember Usyk is the invincible fighter now so don't dare say anyone can beat him. Replace Chisora with Prime Tyson the Usyk fight. Tyson catches AJ with another temple shot. Likr Ruiz hands are too fast
            Last edited by hhh1200; 09-04-2022, 03:16 PM.

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            • hugh grant
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              #116
              Tyson would likely beat josh, but usyk would be good fight. I don't know who's win

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              • Ganondorf
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                #117
                Tyson would have slept AJ for sure Imo. AJ not busy enough, suspect chin, suspect mental toughness at times, suspect recovery.

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                • satiev1
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                  #118
                  ****em is the epitome of a casual boxing fan. I lost brain cells reading his posts

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