Mike Tyson claims he would’ve beaten Usyk and AJ in his prime

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  • Tatabanya
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    #51
    Originally posted by buddyr
    We're talking Cus/rooney tyson here, not Jay Bright/King tyson. And even that guy, the one who fought Ruddock, beats Usyk/Wilder/Joshua/Fury.[/B].
    Tyson actually fought Ruddock under Richie Giachetti. As I posted before, Giachetti seemed to function quite well for him.

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      #52
      Originally posted by buddyr

      it depends on a lot of factors. Ali was only 29 against Fraizer the first time, but nowhere near the fighter he was just a few years prior due to the inactivity. There are factors that decide a lot of things and not just age. Hagler by 32 had twice as many fights as Crawford does now at 33.
      Tyson is from Brownsville (a 3rd world trenches in Brooklyn - been out there a few times) - prison shouldn't affect him. Prison is the gladiator school and a perfect place for boxers to build character. Only the strong survive whilst the weak fold like a pack of cards.

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        #53
        Originally posted by BangEM

        No, recently, he has doing that lately after every big HW fight.
        Excess of cannabis plus mid-age crisis

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          #54
          I’d bet confidently on 21 year old Tyson to defeat both. He’d absolutely terrorize Joshua.

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            #55
            Originally posted by BangEM

            Tyson is from Brownsville (a 3rd world trenches in Brooklyn - been out there a few times) - prison shouldn't affect him. Prison is the gladiator school and a perfect place for boxers to build character. Only the strong survive whilst the weak fold like a pack of cards.
            This is interesting. How do you explain then Tyson surviving Brownsville as a child, and the jail as an adult, but quitting (according to your point of view) in a boxing ring, which was apparently the lone place he felt great in?
            Last edited by Tatabanya; 09-28-2021, 07:56 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by 4truth
              I’d bet confidently on 21 year old Tyson to defeat both. He’d absolutely terrorize Joshua.
              That Tyson would probably also beat Usyk, for one reason only. Young Mike didn't give you any time to think.

              Incidentally, as much as I hate theoretical fights, I would have appreciated Usyk vs Michael Spinks. Great pairing.
              Last edited by Tatabanya; 09-28-2021, 08:00 AM.

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                #57
                tyson in hes prime beats both and easy
                he would stop both of them

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Tatabanya

                  Take again Lewis. He fought perhaps three "name" opponents in his whole career. A shot Tyson, Holyfield and perhaps Vitali Klitschko, who came very close to defeating him. I'll even give you Ray Mercer, who arguably won that fight.

                  Then? Rahman beat him, McCall beat him. Bruno was close to beating him. What we're left with is Golota, Grant, Tua and so on.

                  His best moment is probably the Ruddock knockout. And Ruddock had already been softened by Tyson.

                  Namely, the same level of opponents Tyson destroyed in his prime. But Lewis is an ATG, and Tyson is an overrated bum. OK.
                  What did you think of the stoppage against McCall in the first fight i remember at the time huge controversy over it.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by james240

                    What did you think of the stoppage against McCall in the first fight i remember at the time huge controversy over it.
                    It looked premature at first, but if you watch carefully Lewis had weak legs as he was receiving the count. The referee probably saved him from a worse ending.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Tatabanya

                      Excess of cannabis plus mid-age crisis
                      And, as someone else also noted, obviously back on the juice!

                      Tyson the Bully only looked devastating against those he could intimidate; he'd have crushed Joshua.

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