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  • Clegg
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    #31
    So Vargas doesn't want the Russell fight now? That's a shame. I didn't expect it to be exciting or a war but was interested to see how that one played out

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    • redruff
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      #32
      They both already fought in eliminators to fight for Haney's title.Is this a double elimination type of thing. WBC need to be shut down.

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        #33
        Originally posted by redruff
        They both already fought in eliminators to fight for Haney's title.Is this a double elimination type of thing. WBC need to be shut down.
        The problem is nobody respect that email WBC belt Haney has. He can claim he is the WBC champ but the guy never beat a actual champion to get it.

        sad state at the 135lb division, I say the networks need to put their foot down and only ask for fights that will actually matter. How ****** are these networks broadcasting and paying for meaningless fights??

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          #34
          Originally posted by PRchamp

          The problem is nobody respect that email WBC belt Haney has. He can claim he is the WBC champ but the guy never beat a actual champion to get it.
          Get out of here with that. Many fighters have been elevated without fighting anybody.

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          • Rodtang
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            #35
            Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan

            Wasn't it obvious?

            Lol even if they hadn't requested this fight as a final eliminator what do you think the wbc was gonna do? You think they were gonna take a possible future cash cow in ryan and a popular fighter in Diaz off their rankings?
            If Haney doesn't get to beat them no matter. Someone else will. Diaz is too small and Garcia is the weakest link in the chain.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Cypocryphy
              I can't say this is some slight on Haney. Jo Jo never received a contract from Haney (so he says). But if this is the WBC slighting Haney, then Haney can blame his dad for this one. I wouldn't be surprised if this is Mauricio's payback for Bill's perpetuating the narrative that Loma or Teofimo ducked Haney because Haney was the mandatory. If you only knew the extent of BS spewing from Bill Haney's mouth and his dragging Mauricio into that heaping pile of manure, then you would completely understand. This could be the WBC's way of sending a message to the Haneys. "If you keep up with the nonsense, then we'll stick you in purgatory."
              Yeah that Mauricio is a stand up guy ain't he though?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Bronx23
                Zero interest in this one, one of them should be fighting Haney. My prediction: Garcia wins & then fights Gamboa or something
                But why?

                I thought JoJo Diaz was like a favorite around here not long ago?

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                • Cypocryphy
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Rodtang

                  Yeah that Mauricio is a stand up guy ain't he though?
                  Well, I'm not a fan of Mauricio suctioning the title bout of Valdez. That was bad. But with the Haney thing, there's past history of Haney asking for buckets of money when the opponent is remotely interesting. Asking for wads of cash is the new way of avoiding fights now. And from the reports, DHP is notorious for pricing Devin out of fights. I like Haney. I think he's a good boxer. But I don't like how he goes about things. He clout chases a lot. He says things that end up being contradicted. And if it's true that Jo Jo never got a contract for Haney, then I can't see what the issue is. You know?

                  And that's how I see this. Garcia and Jo Jo are with GBP. The fight is cheaper to put on, without a doubt. Garcia was gong to fight Tank, but now that Tank is only fighting in-house guys, it seems that it's in GBP's best interest to kill two birds with one stone and get Garcia and Jo Jo to fight. If Haney has made the right offer to Jo Jo, then I'm sure the fight would have been made. But it appears that no offer was ever made. So that's that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                    Well, I'm not a fan of Mauricio suctioning the title bout of Valdez. That was bad. But with the Haney thing, there's past history of Haney asking for buckets of money when the opponent is remotely interesting. Asking for wads of cash is the new way of avoiding fights now. And from the reports, DHP is notorious for pricing Devin out of fights. I like Haney. I think he's a good boxer. But I don't like how he goes about things. He clout chases a lot. He says things that end up being contradicted. And if it's true that Jo Jo never got a contract for Haney, then I can't see what the issue is. You know?

                    And that's how I see this. Garcia and Jo Jo are with GBP. The fight is cheaper to put on, without a doubt. Garcia was gong to fight Tank, but now that Tank is only fighting in-house guys, it seems that it's in GBP's best interest to kill two birds with one stone and get Garcia and Jo Jo to fight. If Haney has made the right offer to Jo Jo, then I'm sure the fight would have been made. But it appears that no offer was ever made. So that's that.
                    It's not about Haney making an offer. It's a mandatory. That means that they both negotiate. GBP can make offers too you know. The responsibility doesn't just lie with Matchroom. They make offers, and if they can't agree it goes to purse bid. But there's no purse bid as the GBP fighters aren't showing interest. Team Haney have made approaches to team Diaz and team Diaz have shown very little interest. That's because Oscar wants them to fight each other. It's not a bad fight. I have no issue with that fight. My issue is, if they're not prepared to fight for the title once they become mandatory, then they should give up that unnecessary interim title and inform the WBC that they're not interested in an eliminator as they won't be pursuing the main title at this time. All they're doing is depriving other fighters who would go on and fight for it, costing themselves sanctioning fees for no reason and generally making themselves look bad. It's no wonder people are calling them ducks.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Rodtang

                      It's not about Haney making an offer. It's a mandatory. That means that they both negotiate. GBP can make offers too you know. The responsibility doesn't just lie with Matchroom. They make offers, and if they can't agree it goes to purse bid. But there's no purse bid as the GBP fighters aren't showing interest. Team Haney have made approaches to team Diaz and team Diaz have shown very little interest. That's because Oscar wants them to fight each other. It's not a bad fight. I have no issue with that fight. My issue is, if they're not prepared to fight for the title once they become mandatory, then they should give up that unnecessary interim title and inform the WBC that they're not interested in an eliminator as they won't be pursuing the main title at this time. All they're doing is depriving other fighters who would go on and fight for it, costing themselves sanctioning fees for no reason and generally making themselves look bad. It's no wonder people are calling them ducks.
                      Yeah. I agree there. But with the WBC, whoever gets the interim belt will not have a mandatory with Haney. It will be a voluntary. So we'll see.

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