Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez Tests Positive For VADA Banned Substance, Fight With Conceicao In Question

[The Big Dunn]

Another fighter caught cheating from the Reynoso camp, but you expect us to believe AlvaRoid ate Clenbuterol Asada, yea ok...

This is a very fair point that fans need to think about carefully.

[Tatabanya]

I don't mind drugs in sports if ALL can juice equally, legally.

Except "legally", I think that's exactly what's been happening for a number of years now.

[TheBoxGod]

Another fighter caught cheating from the Reynoso camp, but you expect us to believe AlvaRoid ate Clenbuterol Asada, yea ok...

This is a very fair point that fans need to think about carefully.

Its only Been Canelo whos been retroly vindicated with wada new threshold acknowledging food contaimination limits which canelo failed test was well under.

and now this in-progress situation with Valdez.

Thats it. So I don't see the big fuss people are trying to correlate to the Reynoso camp.

[The Big Dunn]

Its only Been Canelo whos been retroly vindicated with wada new threshold acknowledging food contaimination limits which canelo failed test was well under.

and now this in-progress situation with Valdez.

Thats it. So I don't see the big fuss people are trying to correlate to the Reynoso camp.

Retroactively vindicated? Maybe to you but not to most. He got caught cheating and gave an excuse that was pure BS.

or do you really think the chef that was cooking his meals in all access gets Canelo, a multi millionaire professional athlete, the same meat from the same markets as poor, Mexican farmers?

Valdez is now suspect. I get as a fan you’re taking the least damaging perspective.

But I agree with PinkGod- once is an accident. Twice is a trend.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Not a good look for the Reynoso camp. I wonder what the excuse will be.

[TheBoxGod]

Retroactively vindicated? Maybe to you but not to most. He got caught cheating and gave an excuse that was pure BS.

or do you really think the chef that was cooking his meals in all access gets Canelo’s meat from the same markets as poor, Mexican farmers?

Valdez is now suspect. I get as a fan you’re taking the least damaging perspective.

But I agree with PinkGod- once is an accident. Twice is a trend.

The excuse is not bs. Its a fact. Wada changed the the clenbutorol threshold limits to reflect food contamination (which is in the parts per trillion range which has no beneficial effects) and canelo was well under those limits. Canelo also gave up hair sample further proving this.

Your opinion about where he gets his meat etc is just opinion, a chef is not a butcher and butcher gets his meat from distribution vendors. So that conspiracy is flawed to say the least.

and Valdez is still in-progress not all the facts have came out.

2 data points is not a acceptable trend, you need a 3rd data point to confirm that trend. Also given the first data point is vindicated by the facts and the 2nd data point is still not confirmed you are far from a trend, you only have your opinions and narrative so far... maybe the future will prove you correct but as right now you have nothing.

[-Kev-]

Lol a diuretic.

Who cares?

He’s going to care.

It’s banned. You can’t use it. It is not allowed. It’s used to mask other PED’s.

[CLUE]

Its only Been Canelo whos been retroly vindicated with wada new threshold acknowledging food contaimination limits which canelo failed test was well under.

and now this in-progress situation with Valdez.

Thats it. So I don't see the big fuss people are trying to correlate to the Reynoso camp.

Julio Cesar Martinez is part of their camp tested positive also, Reynoso is his trainer

Then you have Ryan Garcia and Andy Ruiz who have not popped for anything but both have had body transformations the moment they entered that camp.

[The Big Dunn]

The excuse is not bs. Its a fact. Wada changed the the clenbutorol threshold limits to reflect food contamination (which is in the parts per trillion range which has no beneficial effects) and canelo was well under those limits. Canelo also gave up hair sample further proving this.

Your opinion about where he gets his meat etc is just opinion, a chef is not a butcher and butcher gets his meat from distribution vendors. So that conspiracy is flawed to say the least.

and Valdez is still in-progress not all the facts have came out.

2 data points is not a acceptable trend, you need a 3rd data point to confirm that trend. Also given the first data point is vindicated by the facts and the 2nd data point is still not confirmed you are far from a trend, you only have your opinions and narrative so far... maybe the future will prove you correct but as right now you have nothing.

Yo dude he tested positive. That they changed the threshold after doesn’t vindicate him.

My opinion? Come on man I get you like canelo but don’t play yourself. You know canelo isn’t getting his meat from some regular butcher where poor Mexicans shop. That is why the excuse was bogus.

True but he still tested positive. I get you’re going to give him every benefit of the doubt as a fan.

As to your assertion that 3 times is needed- wasn’t Reynoso training Luis Nery when he tested positive?

[PinkGod]

Its only Been Canelo whos been retroly vindicated with wada new threshold acknowledging food contaimination limits which canelo failed test was well under.

and now this in-progress situation with Valdez.

Thats it. So I don't see the big fuss people are trying to correlate to the Reynoso camp.

Because you'd think after AlvaRoid popped dirty Eddie would do everything possible to keep his name far away from any conversation involving illegal substances but here we are.