Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez Tests Positive For VADA Banned Substance, Fight With Conceicao In Question

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  • Mammoth
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    #21
    Originally posted by TheBoxGod
    A diuretic imo is nothing major contrary to what people believe it cannot mask something. The testing involved today are top tier you cant mask anything, you can only try to mimic normal markers by manipulating them but by doing so you throw off other markers and all this is taken into account when being drug tested.

    Depending on what "diuretic" it is, it can be as simple as taking supplements (every fighter does it). Fighters are idiots (I know I worked with quite a few of them) they take any supplements anyone who they deem knowledgeable about the subject tells them is good and the only question they ask is "nothing illegal in here, it wont make me fail a drug test" and the person who recommends it never says "depends" but always says "No, its safe" when that answer is 100% wrong, the answer is "DEPENDS".

    Depends, because 99% of supplements are not banned substance tested meaning they do not know for sure their isnt something banned inside it in trace amounts. These companies "brands" buy from a supplier and these suppliers use large vats to process the ingredients and depending on what order they gotta fill determines whats inside those vats at any given time. So a legit supplement such as protein powder that isnt banned substances tested can infact have trace elements of a banned substance; Example the supplier prior to processing the protein in the vat they had a order for something that IS on the banned substance list and they processed that banned substance in that same vat, so now when it comes time to processes the Protein they can be cross contamination. Its the same with food, its why food labels says "may contain xyz, or this was processed in the same plant that process soy" or something similar.

    To prove that fighters take any supplements without even knowing lets take a look at snac. They recently a few years back had got cited from the FDA for failure to quality check the supplement they were getting from their supplier. So their supplements can be tainted and they wont even know it becuase they dont even test it. Also mind you this is a supplement Caleb Plant, Devin Haney, MIkey Garcia, etc all take and SNAC has had athlete fail drug test before.
    "your quality control personnel failed to review and approve all specifications and finished product received from your contract manufacturers."
    https://www.fda.gov/inspections-comp...09443-02272017

    Heres a video of MIkey Garcia taking a Preworkout supplement and faith that he wont fail a test is the guy says "no its clean, its all stimulant free" but his supplement isnt banned substances tested either. He could have failed his drug test here and just by luck he didn't. I am not saying nothing bad about the supplement themselves they are perfectly fine for individual use but not for athletes who get drug tested.
    @ 3 minute mark
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKfWHoIY4Ns
    Lol........

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #22
      Those PBC boxers are dirty AF. Always trying to cheat. Haymon must’ve put something in his A sample. He always cheats Mexican fighters.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-31-2021, 01:49 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Mammoth
        Going into the fight I picked Berchelt to beat Valdez ruthlessly since he always looked vulnerable against so-so opposition. Casts a lot of doubt on whether or not he was clean for that fight.
        I picked Berchelt as well in our League, but won money on Valdez that night because of an apparently "crazy" bet. At this point I may have won that money thanks to some juice...

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          #24
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Those PBC boxers are dirty AF. Always trying to cheat. Haymon must’ve put something in his A sample. He always cheats Mexican fighters.
          Sometimes you don't have enough to fight that fight

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #25
            Originally posted by Mammoth

            Sometimes you don't have enough to fight that fight
            Just taking time to have a little fun.

            I guess this is why Arum didn’t make the Shakur fight right now. Lol

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            • KTFOKING
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              Going into the fight I picked Berchelt to beat Valdez ruthlessly since he always looked vulnerable against so-so opposition. Casts a lot of doubt on whether or not he was clean for that fight.
              Pretty sure they had VADA testing for that fight. I don't recall for how many weeks but they did have testing for that fight.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #27
                Originally posted by Tatabanya
                Evan Fieldez.
                Yo son this kinda went under the radar.

                LMFAO.

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                • TheBoxGod
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Mammoth
                  Lol........
                  Why is it lol?

                  If diuretics were possible to use to mask PED use than everyone would be doing so however everyone also will be popping for diuretics, the only people who actually pop for diuretics are usually the ones people deem "weight bullies". Why didn't Fury get busted for Diuretics? or Jermall Miller? instead of getting busted for the actual PED? if its so well known that diuretics are a masking agent, surely these multi-million dollar fighters will know this aswell right? or is this knowledge just privileged knowledge that only the internet boxing fans know?

                  diuretics are not a masking agent.

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                  • PinkGod
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                    #29
                    Another fighter caught cheating from the Reynoso camp, but you expect us to believe AlvaRoid ate Clenbuterol Asada, yea ok...

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                    • BoxingIsGreat
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                      #30
                      Is the fight still gonna go on? Wasn't really looking forward to it anyway. Unless Valdez is gonna fight these name fighters around his weight, it's a waste of time. Like many vet fighters, Valdez's body is breaking down and doesn't have much time to waste fights on undeserving opponents.

                      I don't mind drugs in sports if ALL can juice equally, legally.

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