Why is Luis Ortiz still ranked top-10 HW by Ring Magazine?

[PBR Streetgang]

The division isn't that great.

And the winner is....

[PBR Streetgang]

Would be great to see Ortiz in against some of the other PBC HWs or guys that can fight on PBC cards.

Martin, Ruiz, Wallin and Frank Sanchez would be nice matchups. I realize Martin and Ruiz might fight each other in October and Frank is slated for Ajagba.

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Where in Ring does it state Ring uses anything but the eye test?

Ortiz has ben top ranked since like 2014, why y'all crying now?

Because it’s like 2021 ?

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Would be great to see Ortiz in against some of the other PBC HWs or guys that can fight on PBC cards.

Martin, Ruiz, Wallin and Frank Sanchez would be nice matchups. I realize Martin and Ruiz might fight each other in October and Frank is slated for Ajagba.

He is also friends with Ortiz they said they wouldn’t fight each other ,though Sanchez said he would win . Id actually wouldn’t mind seeing Ortiz fight Breazeale in a last ditch effort of his career ,would like to see if Ortiz can keep someone that size off him and see where his gas tank is .

[ShaneMosleySr]

What does the year have to do with it?

Ortiz is number six.

Michael Hunter is number seven. Hunter lost at cruiserweight and fought to a draw with Povetkin at heavyweight when Povetkin was in his 40s and getting KOed by guys.

He shouldn’t be ranked ahead of Ortiz.

Oscar Rivas is number eight. Rivas’ biggest win at heavyweight is a guy Luis Ortiz beat the ever living crap out of about five years before Rivas got that win. He also lost to Dillian Whyte.

He shouldn’t be ranked ahead of Ortiz.

Joe Joyce at number nine has an argument. He’s put together a nice resume in a short time. But I’ve seen both box and I don’t see him doing better than Luis Ortiz did against a Deontay Wilder-type heavyweight.

Oleksander Usyk at number ten has only had two heavyweight fights. He had a razor thin win over Dereck Chisora. He shouldn’t be ranked ahead of Ortiz.

Because it’s like 2021 ?

[billeau2]

Because it’s like 2021 ?

What do years have to do with it?

[billeau2]

You are wrong there ,you should check this guys posts out he claims everyone has the same record as Ortiz and because he has only lost to the same guy it proves he’s a top guy . billeau2

Stop pming me and begging! And no never said Ortiz was a top guy... your reading comp skills being what they are I can't blame you...

Argument is, was and always has been, the division is weak and Ortiz is as good as other guys beneath the top 3 guys. Stop putting words in my mouth and stop PM ing me!

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What does the year have to do with it?

Ortiz is number six.

Michael Hunter is number seven. Hunter lost at cruiserweight and fought to a draw with Povetkin at heavyweight when Povetkin was in his 40s and getting KOed by guys.

He shouldn’t be ranked ahead of Ortiz.

Oscar Rivas is number eight. Rivas’ biggest win at heavyweight is a guy Luis Ortiz beat the ever living crap out of about five years before Rivas got that win. He also lost to Dillian Whyte.

He shouldn’t be ranked ahead of Ortiz.

Joe Joyce at number nine has an argument. He’s put together a nice resume in a short time. But I’ve seen both box and I don’t see him doing better than Luis Ortiz did against a Deontay Wilder-type heavyweight.

Oleksander Usyk at number ten has only had two heavyweight fights. He had a razor thin win over Dereck Chisora. He shouldn’t be ranked ahead of Ortiz.

Whats Ortiz last win against a top guy ?

Funny no one wants to answer this but there’s never a shortage of asking why he doesn’t belong .

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Stop pming me and begging! And no never said Ortiz was a top guy... your reading comp skills being what they are I can't blame you...

Argument is, was and always has been, the division is weak and Ortiz is as good as other guys beneath the top 3 guys. Stop putting words in my mouth and stop PM ing me!

Oh did I hurt your feelings silly Billy ?

This clown loves making threads about me though ,that’s o.K . Why don’t you snitch to the mods like you like to do . Ha

You are lying Silly Billy you said Ortiz hadn’t lost more then once makes him a top guy . Pinocchio is in the house again .

[billeau2]

You obviously are not sane if you took that post seriously.

Your talking to the village idiot. Just a reminder. He does not even have the capacity for humor, or irony. You can't reason with ****** at a certain point...