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  • PBR Streetgang
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    #81
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    The lie was he claimed Whyte lost an elimination bout against Povetkin. He said this in an attempt to make himself over on Whyte . In fact Hunter lost to Povetkin if the missed knocked down is scored on the actual scorecards.
    Honestly, its been ages since I saw the Hunter/Povetkin fight. I can't remember the KD/slip ruling. I remember both hurt each other and I remember thinking Hunter didn't look all that great in the fight but it was close. Had they announced Povetkin the winner, I wouldn't have had any issue with it. That was the first fight that gave me an idea of where Hunter's limits were in the division (more so than the Usyk fight where I thought he looked sharp but just faded). I think he could win a belt and I think he could upset some of the bigger guys depending on the matchup and circumstances but I don't think he's the baddest man in the division, just an undersized, skilled spoiler type. I'm still a fan.

    As for Hunter and Whyte, I am sure Hunter would love a fight with him but there's no reason for Whyte to fight him at the moment. Hunter has lost whatever buzz and relevancy he had after the Bakole and Kuzmin wins and even the draw with Povetkin.

    From what I understand, Whyte is in some legal wrangling with the WBC regarding that mandatory status so he may not want to risk anything with an overly dangerous fight. If Whyte isn't going to fight a relevant name for his fight in the US, he might as well fight Franklin. Franklin has an undefeated record that they can sell as being a dangerous opponent and he will probably get dominated in spectacular fashion by Whyte.

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    • REDEEMER
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      #82
      Originally posted by PBR Streetgang

      Honestly, its been ages since I saw the Hunter/Povetkin fight. I can't remember the KD/slip ruling. I remember both hurt each other and I remember thinking Hunter didn't look all that great in the fight but it was close. Had they announced Povetkin the winner, I wouldn't have had any issue with it. That was the first fight that gave me an idea of where Hunter's limits were in the division (more so than the Usyk fight where I thought he looked sharp but just faded). I think he could win a belt and I think he could upset some of the bigger guys depending on the matchup and circumstances but I don't think he's the baddest man in the division, just an undersized, skilled spoiler type. I'm still a fan.

      As for Hunter and Whyte, I am sure Hunter would love a fight with him but there's no reason for Whyte to fight him at the moment. Hunter has lost whatever buzz and relevancy he had after the Bakole and Kuzmin wins and even the draw with Povetkin.

      From what I understand, Whyte is in some legal wrangling with the WBC regarding that mandatory status so he may not want to risk anything with an overly dangerous fight. If Whyte isn't going to fight a relevant name for his fight in the US, he might as well fight Franklin. Franklin has an undefeated record that they can sell as being a dangerous opponent and he will probably get dominated in spectacular fashion by Whyte.
      Whyte has a legit claim . By the own rules of the WBC the winner of a mandatory assumes that position immediately ,just like Povetkin did the first time .

      Franklin isn’t really that good ,he’s like a slightly better Lovejoy ,but the crazy crew on here will still question the fight not an Ortiz though ?

      Hunter would give Whyte trouble style wise he’s got better foundation but I see a late Whyte knockout win but it depends what Whyte shows up? It’s definitely a safer route then a Hrgovic .

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        #83
        Originally posted by REDEEMER

        Povetkin would be Wilders best win .As far as I k ow Povetkin didn’t fail his pre fight exam ? Didnt Wilders best win ?
        Why are you morons talking about Wilder?

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          #84
          Originally posted by REDEEMER

          Whyte has a legit claim . By the own rules of the WBC the winner of a mandatory assumes that position immediately ,just like Povetkin did the first time .

          Franklin isn’t really that good ,he’s like a slightly better Lovejoy ,but the crazy crew on here will still question the fight not an Ortiz though ?

          Hunter would give Whyte trouble style wise he’s got better foundation but I see a late Whyte knockout win but it depends what Whyte shows up? It’s definitely a safer route then a Hrgovic .
          I think Whyte deserves the mandatory but in this sport, "deserve" doesn't mean much. We'll see what comes of the whole thing.

          I think Hunter would give Whyte trouble but I don't know who would win. Like you said, depends on what Whyte (and what Hunter for that matter) show up.

          As for Hrgovic, I know you are a fan. I'm not. I haven't seen much that makes me think he's something special but I am just a fan of the sport so what the hell do I know. I do acknowledge that for whatever reason nobody seems to want that mandatory fight against him. That telling...

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            #85
            Originally posted by PBR Streetgang

            I think Whyte deserves the mandatory but in this sport, "deserve" doesn't mean much. We'll see what comes of the whole thing.

            I think Hunter would give Whyte trouble but I don't know who would win. Like you said, depends on what Whyte (and what Hunter for that matter) show up.

            As for Hrgovic, I know you are a fan. I'm not. I haven't seen much that makes me think he's something special but I am just a fan of the sport so what the hell do I know. I do acknowledge that for whatever reason nobody seems to want that mandatory fight against him. That telling...
            Wlad Klitschko said years ago he would rule the division after sparring him . I have a feeling Hrgovic will surpass both Klitschko brothers if he can get by Joshuas counter punching , because after AJ not many match up with him well . Joyce will be a tough fight should they meet but I see ultimately Hrgovic tagging him up in a late stoppage,I have little doubt he stops Wilder and Fury I can’t see him in the sport long enough to even dissect that one if they fought anytime soon .
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-17-2021, 05:20 AM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee

              So the number 1 in the WBC and the number 1 in the IBF should fight each other without a title on the line?

              Use common sense, it gets me to where i need to be. Give it a try. That fight isn't going to happen for obvious reasons. No one wins anything or progresses. One just loses and the other stays right where they are.
              So we have Wilder vs. Fury, and then a unification, and most likely a rematch. I would think Hrgovic would want to fight Wnyte, and vice versa, because it should be a big fight in the UK, and it gives momentum to which ever fighter that faces Joshua, Fury, or Wilder. I would think Hrgovic would want to fight top level guys now, instead of fighting no names while he waits possibly to 2023, for his title shot? Maybe it's just me?

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                #87
                Originally posted by Mammoth

                Why are you morons talking about Wilder?
                You are bringing up guys who are or were supposedly sick ,I’m pointing out your guy fought a guy who failed a medical exam and was almost pulled from his fight entering the arena not hard to figure out is it ? Weirdos like you have to be constantly reminded of things when you tell stories .

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by billeau2

                  I like whyte... but you making excuses for him? Parker beat him... that's called winning a fight. No slight on Dillan...
                  Oh wait, you think Parker actually beat Whyte? That's actually a thing? No he didn't. Same as the weirdo's who think Rivas beat Whyte when he was dominated from start to finish.

                  And i didn't say fighters are bad based on where they come from. They're bad based on whether they duck or slander someone innocent to build their name off them like a vulture while pretending they're willing to fight everyone when they're clearly not. Plant is the one playing the game the most at the minute in using the plan to build his name by associating his with Canelo. He'll then fight his bums and make claim he's a real fighter looking for the best. It's embarrassing.

                  To dispute Americans ducking fights left right and centre would be either a lie, or pure delusion. Pick one.

                  I don't know whether most fighters in the US are world class or not because they're not willing to prove it when fights are on offer. I wouldn't go as far as to call them bums, just that i don't know what they have. It's nothing but hype and slight of hand. I've even pointed out to you what Americans and Mexicans have been pulling for quite some time now with all their opponents being vulnerable for one reason or another. They're carefully selected for this purpose. Those odds are not a coincidence. They're intentionally picked for that reason.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by PBR Streetgang

                    1) I believe they are called Triller not Trilla. If that's an attempted to belittle them, it shows a bias from the jump.

                    2) Triller has shown to pay handsomely (in my opinion overpay) for boxing content as they attempt to establish themselves in the market. Hunter also stated it, which would be consistent with that. Hunter was entitled to 60% of the purse bid which was about $360k. For a platform that was willing to pay $6 million for Kambosos and Teo, going over $360k doesn't seem unrealistic.

                    3) I could care less what Triller does or how they pay or for what purpose. I have had no interest in their content thus far and from what I know, I don't believe is like their presentation of content.

                    4) Based on the barrage of messages you posted on this thread defending Dillian, you seem incredibly passionate and defensive about Whyte. Can you explain why you're so passionate about him? I'm legitimately curious.
                    1) Genuine mistake in the spelling with Triller. I'm not a child who tries to take swipes at any platform unless it's justified. I have no problem with Triller at this point for me to have any real opinion on them.

                    2) They did pay a hell of a lot of money for the Teo fight. But that's with world titles on the line at world level. Hunter has none of those things. He's fighting opponents that are legitimately no marks. It does nothing for their platform, nor does it do anything for Hunter's ranking. In fact, with him turning the mandatory fight down, he's been removed from the top 15.

                    So you think the ******ity Hunter is coming out with is true about Triller backing out for their fighter because Hearn told them to? Why would they do so? It wouldn't make any sense for them if they had more money to put up than Hearn.

                    3) I just like truth. Nothing more, nothing less. If people have genuine gripes with fighters because of something they've said or done, then point that out within the context of that discussion. But if it's just madness because Dillian made Wilder shlt himself like the coward he is, then it's just bitterness on their part.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_

                      Whyte fans don't understand that they're in a glass house
                      That would only make sense if the refusal to fight for eliminators was actually true. It isn't, so it doesn't.

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