Comments Thread For: Michael Hunter Eager To Face Dillian Whyte: They Don't Want The Smoke!

[Stuart Chandler]

Hunter is protected hype job hiding away fighting unranked guys .

[Rodtang]

You was on a roll until here. Joshua ain’t fighting no man without a rematch clause. Even the fury fight had to be a two fight deal. That cannot be Whyte masterplan. I think Eddie lowballed him just like Whyte alluded too. Aj and Eddie cherry picked Ruiz and it blew up spectacularly!!

They didn't cherry pick Ruiz. He was scheduled to fight Jarell Miller and Miller blew it. And Ruiz was the replacement. He wasn't even first choice replacement as Ortiz was offered it first but that was declined for him to fight Wilder again. So definitely not a cherry pick lol. Whyte was made a good offer to fight AJ and he declined as one of the main sticking points for him was a 50/50 split for the rematch. Whyte said he'd rather fight AJ as a mandatory. Eddie said but you'd get less money. Dillian said yes but there's no rematch. You can't force a rematch for a mandatory. So when Whyte deal was dead they changed plans for AJ cancelling Wembley stadium and booking MSG. And Whyte then continued on his WBC path.

[billeau2]

It wouldn’t have anything to do with you saying you find trans***uals cute though ? Come on Silly you walked right into that one .

When is the Joshua fury fight you said was a sure thing? I'm trying to buy tickets.

What is consideration? In a contract?

Thhhhhhhank you HA!

[Sid-Knee]

Sorry I mean Rivas, that was a lapsus on my side.

Parker is not a very fast boxer, but it showed a better technique in the match.

Imo Whyte wins only if he can ko his opponent, otherwise loses by most contenders.

Parker is fast, it's just that he hasn't got the mind set to use it properly and be purposeful. It's his biggest weakness. But technique doesn't win fights. If it did, Parker would have won. Whyte can be sloppy at times, but he can punch and is willing to have a tear up. He's dangerous. Even Wilder was cared of him.

Whyte has beaten Chisora, Rivas and Parker by points decision. So i don't see that myself.

[Sid-Knee]

Good response. As I've said, I like Hunter but it's not going to get in the way of me trying to be impartial, whatever slight bias I may have (as we all do) will only extend to me trying to see things from his angle.

I do think Triller either offered more than what he would have made with the eliminator OR offered enough that he viewed it as the preferable option. As for his claim about Triller telling him the bid was rigged, I doubt that's how it went down but I do think he feels like there were shenanigans (even if he's wrong). Boxing is a dirty game and for whatever reason he seems to dislike Matchroom quite a bit these days. There's definitely bad blood.

Early in Hunter's career he took on alot of tough fights and since the Povetkin draw, he's gone a different route. He seems very sensitive to the business side of boxing. Not sure what (I'd anything) happened to change his behavior.

People like to throw around the term "duck" if a fighter chooses not to fight another. I don't think many ducks actually happen, most of these guys (at a certain level in the sport) have a high belief in themselves. What often is perceived as a duck is just a risk/reward determination. Just because you believe you can beat a guy doesn't mean you just take a fight.

I'm just here on NSB because I like boxing and like to discuss it, learn things and I try to add a bit of nuance to the discourse. I've defended AJ, Fury, Whyte and many other fighters in discussion threads.

Did Hunter actually say Triller told him that Eddie didn't want them to bid? Or was he just assuming?

A bid can't be rigged by asking someone not to bid. Not that a believe for a second Eddie did so. A lot more has to go on before it can be described as such.

Hunter seems to have a problem with a few people out of nowhere. Do you remember his story about Povetkin and his gloves? Where he wouldn't divulge? He was just talking in riddles. Something not right about him. He's got that Deontay Wilder personality. I'm just glad he doesn't have a title like he had. I do not want to go through that level of insanity again.

The money that he's supposedly getting is just him trying to force promoters to offer more, or get other fighters out of his way so he doesn't have to fight them. Like the PBC lot did only for it to be exposed. I don't believe for one minute Triller would pay that much money for no return. If it was to get him an AJ fight and the payday that comes with it, then the IBF was the best route. He's never going to get that fight now. Triller have no reason to do any of this. It makes zero sense.

[Sid-Knee]

Do you think it's better for Whyte to fight Arreola or Franklin, than Hunter or Hrgovic?

Why fight any of them? Whyte should try to get Ortiz and put that one to bed. None of these do anything for Whyte. Hrgovic is too dangerous for no return. If Whyte was an up and comer looking to get a mandatory shot, then yes. But he's not in that boat. Hunter just wants the payday. So for all his bullshlt, i hope Whyte doesn't give him a shot. I'm sick and tired of American heavies just looking for a quick way to make big money without doing anything for it. It's too entitled. If it was reversed, they wouldn't be giving fighters like Whyte the time of day. Even the fraud Wilder wouldn't fight him for the 7 Mill that he asked for when he priced himself out. And Wilder needed a world class opponent to prove himself. He just wanted bums, and to slander AJ to build his name without any intention of ever fighting him.

[Sid-Knee]

Fair enough. Look... I get it about judging. Jimmy Young what's discriminated against by judges and probably won fights against Norton and Ali... it's frustrating.

History will be kind to Whyte when this fight gets reviewed many moons later.

When Whyte and Parker is reviewed, they'll see one fighter with a reputation for not getting involved and doing too little to put himself higher up the Heavy tree. They'll see the other as clearly winning until late in the fight when he gets tired and starts to gas out, Parker comes alive a bit more and looks to claw some points back. They'll see Whyte dropped through sheer exhaustion with a short lead right to the forehead and look as though he could be finished late in the fight with Parker coming from behind to stop him. But no, they see Whyte get up and use what little senses he has left to survive and see the fight through by the skin of his teeth for a well deserved points win. Parker needed the stoppage, but he didn't get it. He'd lost too many rounds for him to get the decision. Plus, he was knocked down as well.

Norton and Young both did enough to take the decision because they won more rounds than Ali. And if you win more rounds, you should get the decision. Even Ali admitted to one of the Norton robberies.

[Sid-Knee]

You was on a roll until here. Joshua ain’t fighting no man without a rematch clause. Even the fury fight had to be a two fight deal. That cannot be Whyte masterplan. I think Eddie lowballed him just like Whyte alluded too. Aj and Eddie cherry picked Ruiz and it blew up spectacularly!!

Whyte wanted half the money in the rematch should Whyte win the first fight. Now which huge A side star would do that for a contender? No one. It's insane to even ask that. But Whyte doesn't want another beating from AJ. It isn't about the money. He's just using it to make sure the fight won't happen. Americans use this method to get out of fights.

Why would a big star not have a rematch clause? They all pretty much do. It's ****** not to. Look what Lopez did with the A side in Loma after he was ripped off? Loma is now frozen out. Why would AJ set himself up to be frozen out by b1tches? Do you think he's as ****** as you are?

Nah, you just want an angle to spew on him. I know how angry you are from recent events and how it all turned against Fury.

[billeau2]

When Whyte and Parker is reviewed, they'll see one fighter with a reputation for not getting involved and doing too little to put himself higher up the Heavy tree. They'll see the other as clearly winning until late in the fight when he gets tired and starts to gas out, Parker comes alive a bit more and looks to claw some points back. They'll see Whyte dropped through sheer exhaustion with a short lead right to the forehead and look as though he could be finished late in the fight with Parker coming from behind to stop him. But no, they see Whyte get up and use what little senses he has left to survive and see the fight through by the skin of his teeth for a well deserved points win. Parker needed the stoppage, but he didn't get it. He'd lost too many rounds for him to get the decision. Plus, he was knocked down as well.

Norton and Young both did enough to take the decision because they won more rounds than Ali. And if you win more rounds, you should get the decision. Even Ali admitted to one of the Norton robberies.

The judges should never prevent one from looking at a fight to form their own conclusions. As fans, from everywhere, if we give the judges power, they will abuse it.

[Sid-Knee]

The judges should never prevent one from looking at a fight to form their own conclusions. As fans, from everywhere, if we give the judges power, they will abuse it.

Oh i agree wholeheartedly. I didn't go by the judges score card. I went with my own.

At the end, i had it by 5 to Whyte. However, one of the KD's was due to a clash of heads. So, being fair, i didn't add it and made that round 10-10. Therefore i had it by 3 to Whyte.