Stiverne was probably the worst heavyweight world titlist ever

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  • BangEM
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    #31
    Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
    Stiverne had a couple decent wins against Arreola when he picked up the WBA trinket. Martin didn't have any notable wins when Glazkov blew out his knee. I'd say Martin was the worse "champion" of the two based on their accolades up to that point. I think Martin has has surpassed him since then however.

    Regarding Bentt, there was a docu-series (Netflix ( called "Losers" and one episode was about Bentt. He participated in the documentary and it's really interesting. Bentt is a cerebral guy who never really loved boxing but was forced into it by his father. He dealt with a lot of depression and self doubt I'm his career.
    Still sucking off Wilder, eh? Anyone who loses by decision to Wilder is the biggest bum ever.

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      #32
      Nikolay Valuev takes the cake for me

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        #33
        I have to agree with Jake on this one.

        I don’t remember any fight Wilder where was beating anyone on the cards.

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          #34
          Originally posted by ddeg10
          Nikolay Valuev takes the cake for me
          Valuev would beat Stiverne. A plodding stationary fighter doesn’t stand a chance against Big V.

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            #35
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
            How much must you suck to lose a decision fighting the guy known for losing all rounds against everybody?

            I mean, he lost a decision fighting Wilder, lol.
            Can't decide between Charles Martin and Wilder.

            There are probably a bunch of terrible guys from down through the ages

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              #36
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              How much must you suck to lose a decision fighting the guy known for losing all rounds against everybody?

              I mean, he lost a decision fighting Wilder, lol.
              No my vote goes to Tyson Fury. At least Bermane Stiverne defends his titles where as Tyson Fury does not. Tyson Fury is the worst Heavyweight champion in the history of the sport of boxing.

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              • Lonelystoner
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                #37
                Counter punchers get no love nowadays. Stiverne was heavyweight champ for a reason. He wasnt one of the best ever but one of the best at the time.

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                  #38
                  The Nash says he considers him to be better than Charles Martin and Rid**** Bowe, plus many other very weak champions from previous decades. He's better Than Mike Tyson as well, prime Stiverne would have destroyed Douglas, Buster outclassed Tyson. Nash out - boxing expert.

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                    #39
                    I don't think Stiverne was bad by any means, dangerous fighter when in shape and active but was ruined by Don King and hugely inactive often fighting once a year and I guess he just became lazy. Inactivity ruins fighters.

                    He at least beat a faded, old Ray Austin in a terrible performance and Arreola twice. That is a lot more than Charles Martin ever did.

                    Serghei Liakovich, Leon Spinks are also a few shouts.

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