AJ will surpass Mike Tyson as an ATG if he beats Usyk

[Good ol' Douglas]

Troll disgusting fury fan

Uneducated, nostalgia-ridden boomer

[Ropss]

Uneducated, nostalgia-ridden boomer

Wilder is bum stfu *****

[deathofaclown]

While Mike Tyson is a MUCH better fighter and would KO AJ in the first few rounds I think if AJ were to beat Usyk he’d have the better resume.

Usyk, Wlad, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Pulev, Parker,

Well let’s look at that list.

he lost to Usyk, so remove that. He’s 1-1 with Ruiz. Povetkin was 40+, Wlad was 40+ and coming off a loss and a layoff. Pulev was about 39 and only had one real top level fight before when he was ironed with ease.

So you’re left with Whyte, that fight was early in their career and Whyte had barely even had an amateur career. Then Parker who isn’t really special, arguably lost to Hughie Fury and did lose to Whyte.

I’m not saying it’s a bad resume, it’s ok, the names look nice but take into account when he fought them.

But he may have a better resume than Mike Tyson anyway, his wasn’t too good in terms of great wins

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Seriously, he beats him. So?

Ruiz would be tailor made for Tyson. And you're placing this hypothetical fight in Tyson's very short prime. So, yes, Tyson would beat him almost any time they fought in his prime.

Ruiz beating Joshua was a 1 in 50 type outcome. It doesn't provide a guide to Joshua's ability at all.

They fought twice and Ruiz won 1 of them. That’s not exactly 1 in 50. I think if they fought 10 times with both actually in shape, Ruiz wins more than once.

AJ is nowhere near Mike in terms of ability, accolades, resume etc. It’s not even close mate.

[Dakuwaqa]

Well let’s look at that list.

he lost to Usyk, so remove that. He’s 1-1 with Ruiz. Povetkin was 40+, Wlad was 40+ and coming off a loss and a layoff. Pulev was about 39 and only had one real top level fight before when he was ironed with ease.

So you’re left with Whyte, that fight was early in their career and Whyte had barely even had an amateur career. Then Parker who isn’t really special, arguably lost to Hughie Fury and did lose to Whyte.

I’m not saying it’s a bad resume, it’s ok, the names look nice but take into account when he fought them.

But he may have a better resume than Mike Tyson anyway, his wasn’t too good in terms of great wins

You can pick holes in any resume. Every opponent is overrated, old etc.

Same with Tyson Fury. Wlad was definitely past prime and Wilder is complete dog****. He can’t box for Toffee and has nothing but a right hand.

Truth is a 40 year old Wlad would still beat every heavyweight other than AJ and Fury and even the Fury was a boring stalemate.

[just the facts]

Troll disgusting fury fan

Speaking of trolls, who’s alt are you?

[deathofaclown]

You can pick holes in any resume. Every opponent is overrated, old etc.

Same with Tyson Fury. Wlad was definitely past prime and Wilder is complete dog****. He can’t box for Toffee and has nothing but a right hand.

Truth is a 40 year old Wlad would still beat every heavyweight other than AJ and Fury and even the Fury was a boring stalemate.

It wasn’t necessarily a boring stalemate, Fury expertly took away Wlad’s best (and limited) tools and just cruised without needing to make the fight too competitive

Wlad was still a very dangerous fighter even at 40 if you didn’t have the IQ to nullify him, as AJ found out.

Indeed, you can pick holes in anyones resume, but I think it’s fair to say that AJ never beat long reigning champs for any belts which Fury did, and the majority of AJ’s best names are 40. That’s not knocking AJ, he’s got some good wins but I think his resume looks far better on the surface than it really is, when you look at it properly.

Fury beat the two longest reigning HW champs of modern times, definitely nothing to be sniffed at. No matter what you think of Wlad or Wilder, plenty of fighters had a chance to take their belts and couldn’t. As AJ found out with Ruiz, it does not take a special fighter to take your belts, just a decent fighter on a good night, so obviously Wilder and Wlad were doing something right.

[QueensburyRules]

What offer? I only trust what is on paper and we know PBC sent a contract to Hearn after AJ requested 50 million.

Meanwhile, he was offering 12.5 million and trying to tie Wilder down on multi-fight deals. This sounds awfully familiar to the tactic used against Fury where Hearn was saying he had to go through Bellew and Whyte before getting AJ.

AJ was the protected golden child of British boxing. They even bought that Olympic medal for him. I feel like people only find this hard to accept because of the political implications.

- - Ortiz signed with Eddie for multifight deals. Ortiz looked like U would against mid British level David Allen, kakap00, and Eddie let him go.

Deyonce ain't made nothing but peanuts for his career when he could've had AJ and 2 other fights paying him $100 mil.

Git thee the 3rd grader down the street to show U the value of peanuts compared to $100.

[QueensburyRules]

I'm not a Wilder fan at all, but AJ did duck him. Facts.

- - U mama must've left U IQ in her purse that got stolen. Shame that.

[edgarg]

If he beats Usyk his resume will look very nice indeed. He's stiff and limited but he's a throwback indeed.

By "throwback" do you mean theway that fishermen will throw back an undersized catch. Joshue is NOWHERE close to being comparanle to tyson or indeed any pat tope heavyweight. he just doesn'r have the takent, and has, as we've discovered, an untrustworthy chin. Still as a board, gangly ,and the main attribute of this muscle bound guy is his size. he's not even half the boxer that Primo Carnera was, who originally regarded as a clown, turned out to be s decent boxer.