AJ will surpass Mike Tyson as an ATG if he beats Usyk

[Toffee]

Seriously, imagine what a prime late 80’s Tyson does to C level Andy Ruiz Jr.

Seriously, he beats him. So?

Ruiz would be tailor made for Tyson. And you're placing this hypothetical fight in Tyson's very short prime. So, yes, Tyson would beat him almost any time they fought in his prime.

Ruiz beating Joshua was a 1 in 50 type outcome. It doesn't provide a guide to Joshua's ability at all.

[Toffee]

Winning close leaves room for ?'s
Sry but the stakes are high and a close win won't do it.

The stake is the world titles. They're all that matters.

Every fighter has question marks. I'll guarantee if Joshua was brilliant and battered Usyk from pillar to post then people would say Usyk wasn't fit.

Did Whyte erase his Povetkin question marks? He won every minute in the first fight and got caught and knocked cold. He then won every minute in the second fight and stopped Povetkin.

Did people say "ok that erases doubts about him?".

[BodyBagz]

The stake is the world titles. They're all that matters.

Every fighter has question marks. I'll guarantee if Joshua was brilliant and battered Usyk from pillar to post then people would say Usyk wasn't fit.

Did Whyte erase his Povetkin question marks? He won every minute in the first fight and got caught and knocked cold. He then won every minute in the second fight and stopped Povetkin.

Did people say "ok that erases doubts about him?".

Remove as many ?'s as you can.
We see it differently and there's no sense in going back and forth.

[Inspired]

if aj beats usyk, he is back to neutral with another red mark on his resume....he'll have to beat fury and/or wilder to get to any sort of 'atg' talk right now...
meanwhile, if usyk beats aj again..then he is an atg already and only needs to run rings around fury (which he will do, easily) to cement THE HW ATG status.

[QueensburyRules]

The Hearns protected AJ from Wilder intentionally and used Whyte as a shield. Did AJ, as a fighter, duck Wilder? Hard to say.

- - Publically turned down $100 mil offer to fight AJ in his American debut where the only American stepping up to the queue was Fat Andy who surpassed Flubber Fury who also ducked that fight.

OK, U likes the low hanging fruits of the WBC. Yup!.

[Good ol' Douglas]

- - Publically turned down $100 mil offer to fight AJ in his American debut where the only American stepping up to the queue was Fat Andy who surpassed Flubber Fury who also ducked that fight.

OK, U likes the low hanging fruits of the WBC. Yup!.

What offer? I only trust what is on paper and we know PBC sent a contract to Hearn after AJ requested 50 million.

Meanwhile, he was offering 12.5 million and trying to tie Wilder down on multi-fight deals. This sounds awfully familiar to the tactic used against Fury where Hearn was saying he had to go through Bellew and Whyte before getting AJ.

AJ was the protected golden child of British boxing. They even bought that Olympic medal for him. I feel like people only find this hard to accept because of the political implications.

[QueensburyRules]

if aj beats usyk, he is back to neutral with another red mark on his resume....he'll have to beat fury and/or wilder to get to any sort of 'atg' talk right now...
meanwhile, if usyk beats aj again..then he is an atg already and only needs to run rings around fury (which he will do, easily) to cement THE HW ATG status.

- - AJ will have whooped every man who dared step into the ring with him in a record setting run at heavy.

Tygrrl and Deyonce the two low hanging fruits seeking each other for peanuts rather than fight AJ whom they collectively ran from as did a host of heavies because they don;t wanna get KOed. Tygrrl gonna be in the HOF wif his Ring title defense record of 6 yrs the Ring champ wif one measly title defense against the low hanging fruit he already dominated.

U a sissyboy too?

[Good ol' Douglas]

This is a controversial opinion to the boomers and hipsters who ride old era boxers: Fury and Usyk are GOATs. AJ and Wilder are ATGs.

They have stronger resumes than the likes of Vitali, Liston, Patterson, Tyson, etc. while competing in the biggest era of HWs ever where southpaws are far more common.

[Ropss]

This is a controversial opinion to the boomers and hipsters who ride old era boxers: Fury and Usyk are GOATs. AJ and Wilder are ATGs.

They have stronger resumes than the likes of Vitali, Liston, Patterson, Tyson, etc. while competing in the biggest era of HWs ever where southpaws are far more common.

Troll disgusting fury fan

[abracada]

Just being real here, Luis Ortiz is right up there too, lucky Tyson never met Luis when Tyson was at his peak