AJ will surpass Mike Tyson as an ATG if he beats Usyk

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  • Ropss
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    #81
    Originally posted by BodyBagz

    (See #68)

    BTW, I loved how Mike got stretched in his final fights
    I love how Tyson whoops Holmes oh bad beating

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    • BodyBagz
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      #82
      Originally posted by GrizzlyGrizzly

      Holmes trained 2 years for fight
      Yeah, on his sofa doing remote control curls

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        #83
        Originally posted by GrizzlyGrizzly

        I love how Tyson whoops Holmes oh bad beating
        Shot Holmes went on to have a better career than Mike did.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #84
          Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas

          Most of those names are C-tier and maybe a couple B-tier. Nostalgia blinds you from reality. In fact, the 80s were **** on following the 70s "golden era", so you are rewriting history.

          Analyse how Tyson struggled against 6'3 230 lbs Buster Douglas*. He faced a HW who was not intimidated of him and could tie him up/outmuscle on the inside. Plus, Douglas utilised lateral movement and a long jab to walk Tyson onto uppercuts.

          AJ is terrible on the inside. But he could definitely do the latter while being far more athletic and powerful than Douglas.

          *This was in Tyson's athletic prime. Yes, he was distracted and underestimated the opponent, but he still struggled against those attributes in general.
          I’d guess you probably haven’t even seen half of those names even fight. If those guys are C tier, what tier are Pulev, Povetkin, Ruiz, Parker etc? E tier? F tier?

          Tyson would destroy Joshua. Andy Ruiz’s inside game was too much for AJ. Tyson inside 3. Possibly inside 1.

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            #85
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            I’d guess you probably haven’t even seen half of those names even fight. If those guys are C tier, what tier are Pulev, Povetkin, Ruiz, Parker etc? E tier? F tier?

            Tyson would destroy Joshua. Andy Ruiz’s inside game was too much for AJ. Tyson inside 3. Possibly inside 1.
            Pulev is C-tier. Ruiz and Parker C+/B-. Prime Povetkin is solid B-tier.

            Tyson did not "destroy" anybody with a pulse. Old man Holmes lasted almost 4 rounds. His power is overrated. It was the speed and angles that were dangerous.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas

              Pulev is C-tier. Ruiz and Parker C+/B-. Prime Povetkin is solid B-tier.

              Tyson did not "destroy" anybody with a pulse. Old man Holmes lasted almost 4 rounds. His power is overrated. It was the speed and angles that were dangerous.
              SteroidField and Mercer didnt know how to KO that grandpa

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                #87
                Tyson is a top 20 heavyweight all time so if Josh beats usyk it's a great win but maybe not to p 20 yet.p
                If Josh beats many top 10 heavyweights for next 6-8 years then Josh can entertop 10

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Good ol' Douglas

                  Pulev is C-tier. Ruiz and Parker C+/B-. Prime Povetkin is solid B-tier.

                  Tyson did not "destroy" anybody with a pulse. Old man Holmes lasted almost 4 rounds. His power is overrated. It was the speed and angles that were dangerous.
                  As I said you blatantly haven’t studied or watched these fighters properly if you’re coming out with nonsense like that. I’m not even a big Mike fan, but his run from 86-89 was very impressive. Consistently ran through current, former, future champions.

                  Povetkin is C level at best for me, never beat anybody I rated. What’s his best win? Chagaev? Huck? The other 3 are C level at best also. Ruiz, Parker and Pulev wouldn’t even be contenders in past eras. The fact two of them won titles just shows what little depth this current era has.

                  The way I look at it:
                  A Level: Fury and possibly Usyk.
                  B Level: Wilder and AJ.
                  The rest genuinely aren’t worth a damn, aside from a few rising contenders who remain unexposed and may have untapped potential.

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                    #89
                    Beating people your suppose to /heavily favored to beat yet lose then rematch and finally beat doesnt make you an atg. AJ isnt the best his division . yet for aj to be a top 5. AJ has to blitz ko fashion usyk beat wilder n fury 2x for belt n rematch clause then beat 2 younger lions atleast on paper sanchez hrgovic then retire with belts no further loses then I would rank him top 10 for 3x hw champ unified beat atleast 8-10 top 10 in division so depth resume .

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Ry92
                      Beating people your suppose to /heavily favored to beat yet lose then rematch and finally beat doesnt make you an atg. AJ isnt the best his division . yet for aj to be a top 5. AJ has to blitz ko fashion usyk beat wilder n fury 2x for belt n rematch clause then beat 2 younger lions atleast on paper sanchez hrgovic then retire with belts no further loses then I would rank him top 10 for 3x hw champ unified beat atleast 8-10 top 10 in division so depth resume .
                      - - U ain't even the smartest in a warehouse of produce.

                      Tygrrl and Deyonce can go pile drive themselves for the rest of their careers. AJ still in the unified title drivers seat making more $$$ than them combined while confident both turned down stupendous purses to fight him to fight each other for peanuts.

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