There is absolutely nothing special about Devin Haney.

[Dakuwaqa]

Disagree, Haney is a great body puncher especially his "Str8 Right hand to the Gut".

Not as slick as advertised but definitely tougher than most give him credit for.

I absolutely love his straight body punching.

You could see it was slowly wearing Jojo down

[The Big Dunn]

Wait a minute, I thought 22-23 was a boxer's absolute peak. That they're in their prime. Now that Haney looks ordinary chinny with nothing spectacular about him, it's "he yung doe" from you people.

This is a lie. You didn’t think that at all. You’re whining because Floyd beat Canelo when he was 23 and dudes like you try to claim he was “green” despite having 45 pro fights.

I also didn’t make this post last night.

You let your hatred for black people drive your actions. You need to stop.

[whollisboxing]

He’s simply not a draw. He was getting boo’d in his own hometown tonight.

I’d be up for any of those fights though.

If he’s not a draw then the other guys get to be the A-side. Either way I would like to see those fights too

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If he’s not a draw then the other guys get to be the A-side. Either way I would like to see those fights too

It’s just the typical BS you see in boxing. Everyone wants more than they’re worth.

[F l i c k e r]

How do you think he fights like Toney?

I see almost no similarities.

He didn't do it in the Diaz fight but when he covers up to try and shoulder roll or get elusive. It is not like Floyd (how most people seem to view Haney as), it's more like Toney to me. Also how he boxes when he finds his comfort zone; one hand down, the way he throws out his jab, leans over the front foot to throw a long/rangey straight slightly off balance.

Haney just doesn't have that level of natural ability however and isn't as sharp. He just doesn't and isn't.

Go re-watch some James Toney and then watch some other Haney fights. Not the Diaz one, he really didn't do it there. But other fights, he shows it to me.

[IronDanHamza]

He didn't do it in the Diaz fight but when he covers up to try and shoulder roll or get elusive. It is not like Floyd (how most people seem to view Haney as), it's more like Toney to me. Also how he boxes when he finds his comfort zone; one hand down, the way he throws out his jab, leans over the front foot to throw a long/rangey straight slightly off balance.

Haney just doesn't have that level of natural ability however and isn't as sharp. He just doesn't and isn't.

Go re-watch some James Toney and then watch some other Haney fights. Not the Diaz one, he really didn't do it there. But other fights, he shows it to me.

Seen most of Toney's fights, countless times. Seen most of Haney's fights.

Don't see the comparison at all outside of the shoulder roll stance.

Haney's quite fleet footed, Toney's feet are slow and stuck in the mud.

Toney's best position is on the inside, where a fighters on his chest. Haney has no inside game what so ever.

Toney never holds or clinches, Haney clinches all the time especially when hurt.

I'd consider them almost opposites.

[elfag]

135 lb AB was gigantic at the weight. Now that was where he got most of his advantages and he ****** once he moved up but you atleast knew he had the capacity to move up.

Haney has no power, his chin is shaky and his actual hand speed isnt particularly fast. His reflexes are sharp but his hands arent that fast. At 22 we know he cant stay at 135 forever. I dont think he even beats the best at 135 now. He basically is never going to be the best in any division, that is ok but people always hype like 3 different fighters per division as the best and not everyone can be the best.

Good post el***. I still agree with my thoughts from this summer.

Haney just got pressed hard by a much smaller fighter, and he dont have the power to keep him off. You dont even need raw power, you can make up for it with accuracy and/or snap but he has neither. Haney is pretty big for 135 and once he cant make the weight anymore he will really suck at 140+. They are going to be very careful matching him.

[F l i c k e r]

It just seems every young black fighter is the “new Mayweather.” Broner, Tank, Haney, Shakur and there’ll be more to come. Just let these young guys calve their own paths.

Haney is absolutely NOTHING like James Toney.

FFS man, Haney doesn’t even have an inside game, he’s a long-mid range fighter. That’s your worst take yet.

Why? Go look at him and go re-watch some old Toney. The similarities are there, he just doesn't have that level of natural talent.

Haney doesn't have an inside game, you are right but it doesn't mean that he isn't doing the same motions as Toney.

To me, it looks like a **** james Toney. People think "Mayweather" because they see shoulder roll but Haney doesn't control distance or set traps. He just welcomes the action and think he'll best them because he is usually the better man in the ring.

I don't know why that is such a far fetched concept for you.

And I also don't see why you think "every young black fighter is new Mayweather". Not to me and I even stated so by saying Haney is like Toney to me but that's unacceptable to you because everybody is supposed to think they are new Mayweathers?

[F l i c k e r]

Seen most of Toney's fights, countless times. Seen most of Haney's fights.

Don't see the comparison at all outside of the shoulder roll stance.

Haney's quite fleet footed, Toney's feet are slow and stuck in the mud.

Toney's best position is on the inside, where a fighters on his chest. Haney has no inside game what so ever.

Toney never holds or clinches, Haney clinches all the time especially when hurt.

I'd consider them almost opposites.

you think so?

I think he is as stuck in the mud as Toney.

When I think quick feet, I think Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez, Floyd. Haney isn't all that and James Toney at Middleweight wasn't just a totem pole btw.

https://********/GkVqwgmlAQo [<--- james toney vs iran barkley]

[IronDanHamza]

you think so?

I think he is as stuck in the mud as Toney.

When I think quick feet, I think Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez, Floyd. Haney isn't all that and James Toney at Middleweight wasn't just a totem pole btw.

https://********/GkVqwgmlAQo [<--- james toney vs iran barkley]

Yeah I do. He moves way more than Toney that's for sure.

Toney's strength is on the inside, where Haney is useless.

That fight with Barkley is at 168 and if anything is a showcase of a perfect style match up for him (against an aging past prime fighter) where he's on his chest and he's pieicing him up on the inside. You'd never see Haney in that kind of fight because his inside game is none existent.

I don't think I've ever seen Toney throw punches like Haney does. Haney throws punches like dangly almost, he's rangey and long. Toney is more compact and fights closer and shorter, throws way shorter punches.

Any weight for Toney, MW, SMW, LHW, CW, HW. He's slow footed and stuck in the mud. It's his biggest flaw by far (Amongst many others)

I don't see the comparison at all. It's night and day to me.