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  • Nash out
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dodger07

    Montiel was was on multiple top 10-15 p4p lists, some even had him in the top 5:

    https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T...r_Pound--2010s

    Closing 2010: BoxingScene.com’s Pound for Pound Top Ten
    https://www.boxingscene.com/closing-2010-boxingscenecoms-pound-pound-top-ten--34170
    By Cliff Rold - While there may yet be punches thrown before the year is out, the heart of the boxing season has come to a close. Year-end awards are right around the corner. The new season hovers only weeks away. And, with the calendar all but closed, the ten men who represent the best of the sport of boxing at the end of this latest twelve months is ready to be debated. This has been a year of career validating wins (think Fernando Montiel), losses that forced rethinking (think Paul Williams…ouch), and steady as she goes depending on the fighters in question. After the most recent tilt for the Light Heavyweight title, one thing is abundantly clear: No matter his age or occasional inactivity, no matter if he appears to have an off night here or there, until someone genuinely lays a whooping on the great Bernard Hopkins, he remains one of the best fighter’s in the world. Regardless if one thinks Hopkins was robbed in his December 18 challenge of Jean Pascal or whether they feel the draw verdict was justified, the fact at night’s end was that Hopkins beat up Pascal a lot more than the opposite.


    Bleacher Report
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/523700-boxing-top-ten-pound-4-pound
    From BleacherReport.com, your destination for the latest news on your teams and topics in sports.


    Pound-For-Pound Top 20 Boxers Update, 12/10
    http://thecomeback.com/queensberryrules/2010-articles/pound-for-pound-top-20-boxers-update-1210.html


    Vic Darchinyan lost to Nonito then shortly after was on p4p lists as well after destroying Mijares. Nishioka was the #1 122lb fighter when Nonito beat him too.
    I see he is number 7 P4P with the Ring in 2010, and Pongsaklek Wonjongkam is 6! LMAO. The Ring trying to be trendy throwing in some lesser-known light guys. They had Broner 6 in 2012, then again, Broner is Sugar Ray Robinson compared to Pongsaklek Wonjongkam.

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      • ShaneMosleySr
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        #52
        Wonjongkam made 20-something consecutive defenses of a lineal championship, won it back and made 13 more defenses.

        Why is that ranking something to laugh at?

        Originally posted by Nash out

        I see he is number 7 P4P with the Ring in 2010, and Pongsaklek Wonjongkam is 6! LMAO. The Ring trying to be trendy throwing in some lesser-known light guys. They had Broner 6 in 2012, then again, Broner is Sugar Ray Robinson compared to Pongsaklek Wonjongkam.

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          • Nash out
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            #53
            Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
            Wonjongkam made 20-something consecutive defenses of a lineal championship, won it back and made 13 more defenses.

            Why is that ranking something to laugh at?


            He beat nobody and lost to bums. Ricky Burns won world titles in four divisons, made multiple defences, yet never got into my top 50, or anyone else that I know's top 50, yet his resume is much better than that guy.

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                #54
                Originally posted by Nash out

                I just checked his boxrec to fully look into his career, and again, he should never have been any higher than around top 50 P4P.
                Again, what you say or think is irrelevant.

                Stick to the facts, Montiel was a Top 10 P4P ranked fighter. Whether that’s right or wrong is irrelevant, he was a P4P ranked fighter.

                You saying Donaire didn’t beat any world class fighters is not true, simple as that. It’s flat out wrong.

                It wasn’t the only P4P fighter he beat either.
                Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-02-2021, 12:51 PM.

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                  • ShaneMosleySr
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                    Just because you don’t pay attention to the lower weight divisions doesn’t mean some of these guys don’t deserve to be ranked very highly.

                    He won the lineal title by beating the guy, who beat the guy, who beat Manny Pacquiao.

                    So he clearly beat good fighters.

                    He also won 55 consecutive bouts and set a record for number of title defenses in the flyweight division.

                    So let’s stop pretending that ranking is a joke. It clearly isn’t.



                    Originally posted by Nash out

                    He beat nobody and lost to bums. Ricky Burns won world titles in four divisons, made multiple defences, yet never got into my top 50, or anyone else that I know's top 50, yet his resume is much better than that guy.

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                      • Mike D
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                        Donaire is a first ballot hall of famer who has held multiple world championships across 4 different weight divisions. And is still relevant at age 38.

                        But he's overrated.

                        I guess it says a lot about me that I still frequent this forum -- but this forum is such a cesspool, lol. Boxing fans are the worst.

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