Haney-Linares: Boxing Fans are the Absolute Worst
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There were clearly flaws to be pointed out after last night. That's always how that goes. Haney and Garcia aren't finished products imo but both have high ceilings. Haney will have to work on his technique because of his lack of power. If it doesn't come eventually then he's in trouble, especially at higher weights. Garcia is the opposite. A real puncher but terrible feet.Comment
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? I think the only thing I said about Haney fighting wise last night, is that saying he has the best jab in boxing right now is absurd.
Also, my IQ isn't low enough to speak back whatever language that was there. You are posting lol etc like you're laughing but you sound like you're about to cry.Comment
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Everything above is spot on. Haney has done numerous things to deserve the hate he gets. His mouth and ring performances do him no good.Paul,
Haney already rubbed people the wrong way due to the way he 'won' his title. Which was by complaining via email about he should be the WBC champion because Lomachenko dropped the title to go fight a tougher opponent who had just destroyed a top 3 LW (Lopez vs Commey). Literally no one on Earth sees Haney as more dangerous than Lopez. Well, maybe about 100 people with agendas do.
Okay now, this guy is being fed showcase fights. He is blatantly being fed chinny, old fighters so that he can get KO's. And he is failing at that too. So he is now a paper champion who is also weak.
He's just a weak champion. There's no other way to put it. ABC org's entitle these divas to think they are "champion". And these weak divas have the right to gain a major title without doing anything, just go to court, threaten legal action, and they become legal champions (or email champion as Lopez calls him). Not earning it.
I was not part of that era, but I wish boxing could go back to one champion per weight class. The champion at 135 is Teofimo Lopez. That's who fans recognize as the champ right now. There's very little doubt in my mind that Teofimo Lopez would have destroyed and retired the versions of Gamboa and Linares that Haney was given.
TL;DR: Haney is a fake champion that is being shoved down fans throats and they don't like it so they express their displeasure of this weak paper champion through social media/forums.
Haney is an afrocentric racist. His "white boi" comments were ****** as hell. Plus his running to hug was pure p***y. Only a coward does sheeit like that. Taking a knee or getting knocked down is better than running to hug your opponent. That kind of cowardice should be like a 2 point deduction or worse. There will never be a coming back from that cowardice. His Dad is also a very unlikable racist.Comment
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He also claims Lopez has one relevant win like a casual fan.
Lopez has more than one relevant win to anyone who isn't some casual, highlight-watching fan. Nakatani, Commey and Lomachenko. They're all top 10. Next guy, Kambosos, one of the lower tier LW's but still top 10. That's going to be 4 fights vs top 10 Lightweights. But in the eyes of that casual fan he only has one relevant win. You know because top wins don't count unless the fighter is HOF bound like Lomachenko. So I guess pro fighters should only fight 4-5 times in their career and make sure they're 4-5 HOF'ers or else the wins aren't relevant to these casuals.
They are also around the same age, Haney has 10 more pro fights, they have similar amateur backgrounds. Lopez has decided to start fighting quality opponents with like 12-13 fights into his pro career. Skipped the highlight reel type fights and went straight for the top 3 guys (Lomachenko, Commey).
Man, shut up.
Do those wins set Lopez away from the pack? This is exactly what I am talking about. Because it is Lopez, you're over inflating the value of his victories.
The reality of the matter is wins over opponents of that level wasn't respect for the likes of Khan, Broner, Alexander etc.
He has one exceptional win and a few good wins. It isn't enough to put him ahead of the pack where his competitors need to prove that they deserve a shot.
Stop gurgling his juice and look at things objectively.Comment
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lopez has one relevant win over loma but haney has two: linares and gamboa! iron chins! oh wait he couldnt even ko those guys...ok dig up eric crumble out of retirement!
He also claims Lopez has one relevant win like a casual fan.
Lopez has more than one relevant win to anyone who isn't some casual, highlight-watching fan. Nakatani, Commey and Lomachenko. They're all top 10. Next guy, Kambosos, one of the lower tier LW's but still top 10. That's going to be 4 fights vs top 10 Lightweights. But in the eyes of that casual fan he only has one relevant win. You know because top wins don't count unless the fighter is HOF bound like Lomachenko. So I guess pro fighters should only fight 4-5 times in their career and make sure they're 4-5 HOF'ers or else the wins aren't relevant to these casuals.
They are also around the same age, Haney has 10 more pro fights, they have similar amateur backgrounds. Lopez has decided to start fighting quality opponents with like 12-13 fights into his pro career. Skipped the highlight reel type fights and went straight for the top 3 guys (Lomachenko, Commey).Comment
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I commend any boxer that goes toe-to-toe but Haney is average at best, strong kid but he's just another run of the mill guy.Comment
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No, but if I was I probably wouldn't criticize 22 year old fightersComment
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People get so emotional over this stuff . Haney a young, talented yet flawed fighter. Crazy part is the same is true of just about all the guys they root for too. Lopez probably looks the most complete but he has the lower ceiling for sure. They're all fun to watch. But this whinning and emotional outbreaks over whose the best don't mean ****. They need to fight. Period. Until they do, I really don't care who anyone thinks is the best.Comment
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haneys resume wasnt even as good as kamobosas' until yesterday. you should look at things objectively. why would a guy who has beaten many top fighters fight a guy who has never even fought a top 10 opponent? because the guy who has never fought anyone talks a lot in the media? if lopez wanted to fight him then ok cool but he certainly wasnt missing out on anything by not fighting him. also kambosas offered him 4 million. haney offered him nothing. pretty easy decision no?
Man, shut up.
Do those wins set Lopez away from the pack? This is exactly what I am talking about. Because it is Lopez, you're over inflating the value of his victories.
The reality of the matter is wins over opponents of that level wasn't respect for the likes of Khan, Broner, Alexander etc.
He has one exceptional win and a few good wins. It isn't enough to put him ahead of the pack where his competitors need to prove that they deserve a shot.
Stop gurgling his juice and look at things objectively.Last edited by daggum; 05-30-2021, 04:33 PM.Comment
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