Damn it just hit me that Canelo made his own weight class

[Boxing-1013]

back then when canelo was fighting at 155 with no titles vs the likes of kirkland, angulo, lara the fight that people was asking for was the cotto fight, ggg wasnt that relevant, it wasnt after canelo beat cotto that the atention turned over ggg....
only ggg fans thinking the boxing world revolved around ggg lmao...
anytime after the cotto fight the preassure was for the ggg fight...

GGG was 'the' champ at 160. You don't think people would have wanted Canelo to face the top guy at that weight class? Derp

[_Rexy_]

So Canelo WON the belt at 155 which is MIDDLEWEIGHT. He tried defending the belt there and Borat (and his sissy fans like YOU) got upset.

You didnt have a problem when Borat wanted Rosado at 158, Ward at 164, or fought Rolls at 164. Little Trump bitch

I love how ******ed children on this site are trying to tell people who have ACTUALLY COMPETED in boxing how weight classes work.

[_Rexy_]

Middleweight is 155lbs to 160lbs. The poster you are replying to is saying GGG fans were claiming 155 is not MW. It is MW. It's the minimum weight at MW. 160lbs is the MW max. The limit.

I do not agree with weight draining any fighter however. I think all fighters should be able to come in at the max weight allowed for a weight class they're campaigning in. I'm glad Canelo vs GGG happened at the 160 limit both times.

Correct, I elaborated more in my later posts. People for some reason seem to think that you have to meet at the exact same weight. A middleweight fight can have either guy between 155-160. Hagler would often come out at 156-157 and fight guys 159 or 160. This didn't become an issue until somewhat recently.

Seems to only be that way in the Ams now, where when I moved from LHW to HW I was only around 184lbs, but I was above the 178lb limit

[-Kev-]

back then when canelo was fighting at 155 with no titles vs the likes of kirkland, angulo, lara the fight that people was asking for was the cotto fight, ggg wasnt that relevant, it wasnt after canelo beat cotto that the atention turned over ggg....
only ggg fans thinking the boxing world revolved around ggg lmao...
anytime after the cotto fight the preassure was for the ggg fight...

Right. But arguing against their opinion is pointless. Revisionist history is a hard thing to stop. Canelo vs Cotto was one of the biggest mega fights at the time. Cotto even gave GGG step-aside money, which he accepted. GGG fans were actually asking for Cotto vs GGG at first.

If I remember correctly GGG accepted step aside money twice. He was saying he was after the belts, he just wanted the belts. But if he just wanted the belts he could have forced the ABC org's to give him his shot at the titles because he was mando IIRC. Bu accepted money because he preferred to 1. Fight fighters fresh off of coming up from a lower weight class. And 2. He wanted the big money, understandably. He's a prize fighter so of course he wants the big bucks. But just saying.

[kushking]

Just to avoid fighting GGG lol. It's really funny when you look back at it now.

Remember when ggg said cws are disgrace to boxing,& wws v mws are disgrace to boxing?(he offered Brook a cw,Rosado too,but not Cotto/Canelo) he also fought Rolls at a cw,he offered Chavez jr at smw,48 yr bhop too,but Ward,only cw of 164

[Thuglife Nelo]

Lol, that's funny. It's a silly talking point GGG-haters throw out, but yeah it was a funny reply, I'll give you that

GGG haters? That dumb Kazakh said it himself. Lol. That’s like me spitting at your parents photos and running away… then years later you see me again and I pretend it never happened. Don’t defend 154-168-is-easy-Kazakhism

[icha]

GGG was 'the' champ at 160. You don't think people would have wanted Canelo to face the top guy at that weight class? Derp

again, cotto was the one fight people wanted back then... the ggg demand wasnt even close to that...

[eco1]

It's really funny especially when you realize GGG went 0-1-1 and fell off like no other right after. Canelo won.

Only in the eyes of fanboys Clenelo won. Golovkin won both fights.

[-Kev-]

Remember when ggg said cws are disgrace to boxing,& wws v mws are disgrace to boxing?(he offered Brook a cw,Rosado too,but not Cotto/Canelo) he also fought Rolls at a cw,he offered Chavez jr at smw,48 yr bhop too,but Ward,only cw of 164

GGG is the same as any other fighter. Fighters tend to talk down other fighters about something they're doing, and claim it's something they would never do. Then they do that "thing" that they said they would never do.

But I don't really blame GGG for offering Froch a cw of 166lbs, Ward a cw of 164lbs, and then Chavez Jr at the full SMW limit, etc. Forch and Ward are not exactly fights he really wanted. Those aren't fighters he was willing to risk his 0 against. Chavez Jr was clearly not a "great" fighter by any means, easy win even at 168 for GGG. And a big check. Ward would not have given him a big check, and also could have given him a loss. Froch would have likely been a good payday, but again, too risky to fight him at the full SMW limit, let's bring him down to 166lbs.

Yes it shows that GGG is a money-motivated, take the lowest risks type of fighter but he's not unlike pretty much most fighters. He was looking to maximize his earnings for the lowest risks. I was not surprised when he took on the seemingly chinny Daniel Jacobs, at the time, there was still question marks around Jacobs ability to take a punch, which is why most fans thought he'd get brutally KO'ed by GGG. And was also not surprised when he didn't want a Jacobs rematch, after Jacobs showed he can take GGG's punches and also able to fight with him 50-50.

[kushking]

GGG is the same as any other fighter. Fighters tend to talk down other fighters about something they're doing, and claim it's something they would never do. Then they do that "thing" that they said they would never do.

But I don't really blame GGG for offering Froch a cw of 166lbs, Ward a cw of 164lbs, and then Chavez Jr at the full SMW limit, etc. Forch and Ward are not exactly fights he really wanted. Those aren't fighters he was willing to risk his 0 against. Chavez Jr was clearly not a "great" fighter by any means, easy win even at 168 for GGG. And a big check. Ward would not have given him a big check, and also could have given him a loss. Froch would have likely been a good payday, but again, too risky to fight him at the full SMW limit, let's bring him down to 166lbs.

Yes it shows that GGG is a money-motivated, take the lowest risks type of fighter but he's not unlike pretty much most fighters. He was looking to maximize his earnings for the lowest risks. I was not surprised when he took on the seemingly chinny Daniel Jacobs, at the time, there was still question marks around Jacobs ability to take a punch, which is why most fans thought he'd get brutally KO'ed by GGG. And was also not surprised when he didn't want a Jacobs rematch, after Jacobs showed he can take GGG's punches and also able to fight with him 50-50.

Yes you're right,I have never been a fan of ggg because I always saw through the double standards and lies.(well actually I believed him for 1st few yrs til Ward fiasco)(& i was among very very few who said that if ggg actually kos Jacobs I'd give him massive respect, because I was among very few saying Jacobs would make ggg go life & death)

Ggg doesn't like fighting bigger guys with longer arms & power. He avoids them like the plague to this day,& his resume proves that. He did everything to avoid fighting Jacobs before Canelo Because he was worried about losing his payday v the smaller guy he thought was easy work. Thats why he blamed Jacobs for supposedly demanding 200k more,yet he was so ready & willing to be the BBB side to Brook with zero ppv upside.

And for as much sht as the WBA gets they were at least honourable enough to refuse to sanction the Brook fight.