Anthony Joshua Through Age 31 > Lennox Lewis Through Age 31.

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  • MikeyMike100
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    #31
    Originally posted by Zelda
    Unfair to compare two different eras. The top-10 boxers in the 90s were better than those today. AJ is yet to fight a great name in their prime. AJ beating Charles Martin is not an accomplishment, it is a joke that Martin was a titleholder in the first place. If AJ fights and beats Fury and Wilder, then yes that would be an accomplishment. Or even if he fights some upcoming young fighters like Dubois or veteran but not past prime Joyce or upcoming Hrgovic.

    To date, Joshua is yet to even better his record against Fatman who won by TKO while AJ won on points. Similarly, Wilder needs to take his revenge with Fury and fight Joshua. So far, it is Fury that has fought and beat Klitschko and Wilder but has padded that record with a lot of tomato cans in between.
    AJ beating Charles Martin isn't that impressive but it is more impressive than Lennox Lewis being handed the belt. Lennox pre 97 wasn't that special just face it. His career should be looked at as 2 separate parts. Pre Emanuel Steward and Post Emanuel Steward. Name 1 win Lennox had before 1997 that was better than AJ win vs Wlad? Also Tyson Fury now is better than any opponent Lennox Lewis had fought WHEN LENNOX FOUGHT THEM.

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      #32
      Ray Mercer makes light work of the majority of AJ's resume.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ray*
        There are two parts to Lewis, the Lewis that finished his career with Vitali can not be compared to IMHO, he would stop everyone of these current generation.

        But the pre-Emmanuel Stewart Lewis definitely needed fine tuning. Is that version of Lewis at 31 better than this version of Joshua? I would say so too even though the evidence cannot really back me up. This current Joshua with 3 belts looks very vulnerable to me, and Lewis didn’t get his opportunities until later in his career.
        Could be Lennox had more ability even pre Emanuel Steward than AJ but the flaws were similar. Regardless, AJ resume through age 31 is far superior. People just don't want to admit it but who did Lennox really beat pre 97? Post prime Tony Tucker, Frank Bruno, Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock and a questionable one vs Ray Mercer. Also Andy Ruiz is better than Oliver McCall and AJ had to avenge his loss and Lennox beating that version of Oliver McCall means very little as any top 20 Heavyweight would've beat that version of Oliver McCall on that night

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          #34
          Originally posted by W1LL
          Ray Mercer makes light work of the majority of AJ's resume.
          Whats peoples obsession with Ray Mercer? Got completely outboxed by 42 year old Larry Holmes, got beaten by Jesse Furgeson, had a draw with Marion Wilson who was (7-9-2 at the time. Finished with a 12-41-4 record) and was coming off a loss to Evander Holyfield when Lennox Lewis fought him.

          Seems like the only reason people speak so highly of him is that he had a good fight with Lennox and arguably should've won.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Mammoth

            Joshua would have probably died in the 90's
            Most, if not all, of these HWs would have
            Terrible era

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              #36
              Originally posted by BodyBagz

              Most, if not all, of these HWs would have
              Terrible era
              You people love overrating the 90s. AJ knocks out most of the top contenders from back then. The funny thing about people pumping up the 90s Heavyweights is that at 1 point George Foreman and Oliver McCall were the two Heavyweight champions

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                #37
                Mercer would be unbeatable in this era.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MikeyMike100

                  You people love overrating the 90s. AJ knocks out most of the top contenders from back then. The funny thing about people pumping up the 90s Heavyweights is that at 1 point George Foreman and Oliver McCall were the two Heavyweight champions
                  Those guys would run roughshod over these glorified bouncers.

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                    #39
                    Joe Hipp would be a gatekeeper in this HW era

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MikeyMike100

                      AJ beating Charles Martin isn't that impressive but it is more impressive than Lennox Lewis being handed the belt. Lennox pre 97 wasn't that special just face it. His career should be looked at as 2 separate parts. Pre Emanuel Steward and Post Emanuel Steward. Name 1 win Lennox had before 1997 that was better than AJ win vs Wlad? Also Tyson Fury now is better than any opponent Lennox Lewis had fought WHEN LENNOX FOUGHT THEM.
                      I can, but what's the point? It will come down to opinion, wouldn't it?

                      Wlad came out of retirement for that 1 AJ fight so to me that is insignificant. It is not like AJ won against a prime Wlad. Even then, Wlad did give Joshua a tough time. Pre-97 fights that Lewis won of significance include knocking the F out of Ruddock in 2 rounds, KOing Bruno, Morrison, Mercer. So, it's not like Lewis was a nobody pre-97. I believe Ruddock of 92 would easily go through all the B fights not named Joshua, Wilder, or Fury (he may even beat AJ and Wilder too). I also see Morrison and Mercer going through the B list of today pretty easily.

                      Having said that, I do not rate Joshua as a bum either as some here do. I respect him as a fighter and boxer. And I also do not believe much in comparing different eras for the reason that it will come down to opinion. My opinion is that the top 10 in the 90s were better than the top 10 of today.

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