Anthony Joshua Through Age 31 > Lennox Lewis Through Age 31.

[MikeyMike100]

This era isn't a valid comparison to then. The players on the field were way better then and Lennox didn't have the highest profile. AJ wouldn't get past a Tommy Morrison or a Bert Cooper type. Ruiz is a choad.



Lewis is like one of the greates HW's of all time. It's not a civilized discussion, AJ can't holld Lennox jockstrap.

AJ knocks Tommy Morrison out.

[MikeyMike100]

Yeah but this is more of Who are Better Athletes the Athletes of Yester Years or the Current Modern Day Athletes that is not really the argument or the topic. The Topic is "AJ Is More Accomplished" and IMO it is much easier to become more Accomplished Faster in this ERA compared to back then. It is much easier for guys to move up 2-3 weight Classes and Collect Belts now in this ERA compared to back then

Of course you had weak Champions in every ERA but again that wasn't the conversation, my point was once again that when Lennox was working his way up during his HIS ERA Rid**** Bowe and Evander Holyfield was World Champions, so when he was coming up NO it wasn't a Charles Martin type of guy as Champion for him to jump up and take a Belt From. He did fight Tony Tucker for that Vacant Rid**** Bowe Belt that he Infamously threw in the Trash but he originally wanted Bowe

This is actually a good point about there being a harder road for Lennox Lewis to collect his titles as the titles were pretty vacant for Anthony Joshua once Fury beat Klitschko and the belts got scrambled around. Had Lennox not gotten KOd by Oliver McCall then he wouldve had a chance of unifying

[War Room]

AJ knocks Tommy Morrison out.

Ruiz knocked AJ out, Morrison ends AJ's career. Why you such a stan for AJ? He's got a glass jaw and just another over-inflated eurocan. He was running scared about Ruiz in the rematch. Lots of ***** posters here, I had no idea!

[NEETzschean]

Yeah but this is more of Who are Better Athletes the Athletes of Yester Years or the Current Modern Day Athletes that is not really the argument or the topic. The Topic is "AJ Is More Accomplished" and IMO it is much easier to become more Accomplished Faster in this ERA compared to back then. It is much easier for guys to move up 2-3 weight Classes and Collect Belts now in this ERA compared to back then

Of course you had weak Champions in every ERA but again that wasn't the conversation, my point was once again that when Lennox was working his way up during his HIS ERA Rid**** Bowe and Evander Holyfield was World Champions, so when he was coming up NO it wasn't a Charles Martin type of guy as Champion for him to jump up and take a Belt From. He did fight Tony Tucker for that Vacant Rid**** Bowe Belt that he Infamously threw in the Trash but he originally wanted Bowe

"It is much easier for guys to move up 2-3 weight Classes and Collect Belts now in this ERA compared to back then"

Whether this is true or not (and it wouldn't by itself be evidence of a weak or strong era) it has nothing to do with the heavyweight debate.

Maybe Lewis wanted Bowe but ultimately he got an old, worn Tucker. Likewise AJ may have wanted someone other than Martin. That was just the way the cookie crumbled.

The thread starter's point was that AJ was more accomplished at 31 than Lewis was at 31, by which he means that AJ had a better resume at 31. There shouldn't be any debate about that in my opinion: if you go back to 1996, Lewis was being slated for several performances where he'd gone the distance with washed former fringe contender Tony Tucker, been outboxed by old fringe contender Bruno before Bruno's chin and gas tank failed him, been KO'd in one punch by fringe contender McCall, looked shaky in his next few fights and gone life and death with fringe contender Mercer. He had put on impressive performances as well, such as his KO's against Ruddock and Morrison but there were still a lot of question marks surrounding him. AJ on the other hand had beaten a number of opponents of some note: Whyte, Martin, Breazeale, Wlad, Takam, Parker, Povetkin, lost to Ruiz and avenged the loss in the next fight and beat Pulev, 7/10 were KO'd. Ofc you can pick holes in AJ's resume as well (I have myself) but if you just compare AJ at 31 with Lewis at 31, AJ has the wider and deeper resume and he even arguably struggled less against higher quality opposition.

Thus the thread starter is making the point that it's premature to write off AJ at this stage, as the same people who are doing so would have written-off Lewis in the 90's even sooner and more vehemently.

[KingGilgamesh]

Ruiz knocked AJ out, Morrison ends AJ's career. Why you such a stan for AJ? He's got a glass jaw and just another over-inflated eurocan. He was running scared about Ruiz in the rematch. Lots of ***** posters here, I had no idea!

They stan the dude like ****ing Ariana Grande fans, its beyond ****ing weird

[2Shotz]

AJ in the 90’s would’ve fit comfortably somewhere around Michael Grant and Frans Botha level. Michael Moorer as well. They’re all decent competitive fighters at a world class level. AJ is not getting any deeper on the 90’s class. Tua, Mercer, Byrd, Rahman Ibeabuchi, Bruno, Ruddock, Morrison, Golota, all would’ve put in work and stood above average odds to defeat him. The top 90’s heavyweights Bowe, Holyfield, (old) Foreman, Tyson & Lewis take AJ to the cleaners. It was a different era and much more competitive. No knock on AJ. Is what it is.

[MikeyMike100]

Ruiz knocked AJ out, Morrison ends AJ's career. Why you such a stan for AJ? He's got a glass jaw and just another over-inflated eurocan. He was running scared about Ruiz in the rematch. Lots of ***** posters here, I had no idea!

I speak facts only. AJ through age 31 > Lennox through age 31. AJ probably knocks out Tommy Morrison, Wilder also probably knocks out Tommy Morrison. Like Ray Mercer and Michael Bent did.

Its funny how some people in this thread have gone so far on this forum to pump up Ray Mercer, Frank Bruno and Tommy Morrison to boost up the 90s Heavyweights to put Anthony Joshua down.

[MikeyMike100]

"It is much easier for guys to move up 2-3 weight Classes and Collect Belts now in this ERA compared to back then"

Whether this is true or not (and it wouldn't by itself be evidence of a weak or strong era) it has nothing to do with the heavyweight debate.

Maybe Lewis wanted Bowe but ultimately he got an old, worn Tucker. Likewise AJ may have wanted someone other than Martin. That was just the way the cookie crumbled.

The thread starter's point was that AJ was more accomplished at 31 than Lewis was at 31, by which he means that AJ had a better resume at 31. There shouldn't be any debate about that in my opinion: if you go back to 1996, Lewis was being slated for several performances where he'd gone the distance with washed former fringe contender Tony Tucker, been outboxed by old fringe contender Bruno before Bruno's chin and gas tank failed him, been KO'd in one punch by fringe contender McCall, looked shaky in his next few fights and gone life and death with fringe contender Mercer. He had put on impressive performances as well, such as his KO's against Ruddock and Morrison but there were still a lot of question marks surrounding him. AJ on the other hand had beaten a number of opponents of some note: Whyte, Martin, Breazeale, Wlad, Takam, Parker, Povetkin, lost to Ruiz and avenged the loss in the next fight and beat Pulev, 7/10 were KO'd. Ofc you can pick holes in AJ's resume as well (I have myself) but if you just compare AJ at 31 with Lewis at 31, AJ has the wider and deeper resume and he even arguably struggled less against higher quality opposition.

Thus the thread starter is making the point that it's premature to write off AJ at this stage, as the same people who are doing so would have written-off Lewis in the 90's even sooner and more vehemently.

Exactly man. People are just unreasonably harsh on Anthony Joshua and also overrate Lennox Lewis pre 97.

I don't think AJ will end up being as great of a fighter as Lennox but at this stage, he's clearly had the better resume.

[MikeyMike100]

AJ in the 90’s would’ve fit comfortably somewhere around Michael Grant and Frans Botha level. Michael Moorer as well. They’re all decent competitive fighters at a world class level. AJ is not getting any deeper on the 90’s class. Tua, Mercer, Byrd, Rahman Ibeabuchi, Bruno, Ruddock, Morrison, Golota, all would’ve put in work and stood above average odds to defeat him. The top 90’s heavyweights Bowe, Holyfield, (old) Foreman, Tyson & Lewis take AJ to the cleaners. It was a different era and much more competitive. No knock on AJ. Is what it is.

This is such hyperbole it's crazy. A classic example of someone overrating the 90s Heavyweights. Anthony Joshua more than likely would've dominated most of the contenders you mentioned. People probably said the same thing when Wlad Klitschko was in his run "Hed never make it in the 90s".

You really brought up Mercer who struggled with journeymen, Golata who quit in almost any big fight when there was adversity, and old George Foreman who got completely outboxed by Tommy Morrison for 12 rounds. All to try to pump up the heavyweights of the 90s to bring AJ down. Hilarious.

[War Room]

I speak facts only. AJ through age 31 > Lennox through age 31. AJ probably knocks out Tommy Morrison, Wilder also probably knocks out Tommy Morrison. Like Ray Mercer and Michael Bent did.

Its funny how some people in this thread have gone so far on this forum to pump up Ray Mercer, Frank Bruno and Tommy Morrison to boost up the 90s Heavyweights to put Anthony Joshua down.

I think it's funny you think AJ can win in that era. You're clearly a super fan and think AJ is the goat. Maybe it's his muscles or something, I dunno but you're not being reasonable or making sense. Bert Cooper beats AJ, easy.