Anthony Joshua Through Age 31 > Lennox Lewis Through Age 31.

[War Room]

Comparing AJ to Lennox? Crack has been smoketh.

[MikeyMike100]

Those 2 Names was Champions while Lennox was a rising contender, again lack of knowledge exposed again, you want to argue and debate ERAS and History but you're living in the NOW and it is very clear you're ignorant to history

Didnt say anything about 1 era being better than the other just said that AJ through age 31 > Lennox Lewis through age 31. You still haven't been able to dispute this and keep reframing the argument.

[MikeyMike100]

Comparing AJ to Lennox? Crack has been smoketh.

Through age 31 AJ has accomplished more. Pretty clearly actually.

[KingGilgamesh]

Comparing AJ to Lennox? Crack has been smoketh.

It's honestly why I feel Joshua will never be great. I don't even see this kind of **** riding for ****ing Canelo. Even despite getting chinned by Ruiz, I always knew his fanbkys would go back to making out as if he's better than Lewis. They can't help themselves.

[MikeyMike100]

Wilder gets beaten-up and stopped by an elite champion and suddenly he's a bum lmao, imagine what these same guys would have said about Lewis after he was destroyed in one punch by fringe contenders McCall or Rahman! Yes Wilder was protected but he still beat Ortiz (who'd KO'd Jennings in 7 rounds 2 years prior, was a 6'3, 240 lbs undefeated skilled southpaw) and Stiverne in his prime on the backfoot, who is arguably no worse than Chisora or Ruiz. Wilder also KO'd 40-odd opponents (1/4 of which were not cans, though to put it in some perspective only 1/3 of AJ's opponents were not cans, though he did step up much faster) and literally every man he ever faced until he got to Fury. Wilder had many attributes in his favour: 6'7, 83' reach, insane explosiveness and power, great athleticism, fear factor, delusional confidence, an unorthodox style, considerable heart, tenacity and a decent chin. This is why Manny Steward predicted he would become a heavyweight champion. In the period between Wlad's retirement and Fury's comeback, Wilder was a top 2 heavyweight.

Exactly these people just love nostalgia. Deontay Wilder would be a world champion in the 90s and most probably knock most of the top contenders out back then.

[MikeyMike100]

It's honestly why I feel Joshua will never be great. I don't even see this kind of **** riding for ****ing Canelo. Even despite getting chinned by Ruiz, I always knew his fanbkys would go back to making out as if he's better than Lewis. They can't help themselves.

1) Im not a fanboy and 2
2) Lennox Lewis got "chinned" by Oliver McCall who wasn't as good as Andy Ruiz.

Please look up Lennox Lewis's resume pre 97. Not that impressive.

[KingGilgamesh]

1) Im not a fanboy and 2
2) Lennox Lewis got "chinned" by Oliver McCall who wasn't as good as Andy Ruiz.

Please look up Lennox Lewis's resume pre 97. Not that impressive.

Yeah but look at what he did to McCall in the rematch.

I mean sitting here discounting years makes you seem like a ****ing pillock. Tyson achieved more than most of the 90s division by the time he was 21, that doesn't make him better than Lewis or Holyfield. I feel you're so desperate to make Joshua seem like this all time great because, fundamentally, you know he isn't. As said, canelo is a genuine future HOF and undeniable p4p King and no one really feels the need to sell him as such. His resume and in ring performances make that ****ing obvious.

[sicko]

Aside from anything else, the best 10 heavyweights of the 90's were considerably shorter and lighter than the best 10 are today, just as heavyweights in the 90's were considerably taller and heavier than those in the 70's. Technology and sports science have improved considerably, which is why track and field records in athletics keep getting broken. I see no reason why a highly lucrative sport like boxing would be immune from these trends. The world population is also much larger today and there are no political walls which prevent half of the world from competing, as was the case in the 70's and to a lesser extent in the 90's.

As for Charles Martin type champions in the 90's, there were quite a few: Francisco Damiani, Buster Douglas, Michael Bentt, Bruce Seldon and arguably a few others. You get weak champions in every era, if anything fewer today than in the past.

Yeah but this is more of Who are Better Athletes the Athletes of Yester Years or the Current Modern Day Athletes that is not really the argument or the topic. The Topic is "AJ Is More Accomplished" and IMO it is much easier to become more Accomplished Faster in this ERA compared to back then. It is much easier for guys to move up 2-3 weight Classes and Collect Belts now in this ERA compared to back then

Of course you had weak Champions in every ERA but again that wasn't the conversation, my point was once again that when Lennox was working his way up during his HIS ERA Rid**** Bowe and Evander Holyfield was World Champions, so when he was coming up NO it wasn't a Charles Martin type of guy as Champion for him to jump up and take a Belt From. He did fight Tony Tucker for that Vacant Rid**** Bowe Belt that he Infamously threw in the Trash but he originally wanted Bowe

[War Room]

Through age 31 AJ has accomplished more. Pretty clearly actually.

This era isn't a valid comparison to then. The players on the field were way better then and Lennox didn't have the highest profile. AJ wouldn't get past a Tommy Morrison or a Bert Cooper type. Ruiz is a choad.

It's honestly why I feel Joshua will never be great. I don't even see this kind of **** riding for ****ing Canelo. Even despite getting chinned by Ruiz, I always knew his fanbkys would go back to making out as if he's better than Lewis. They can't help themselves.

Lewis is like one of the greates HW's of all time. It's not a civilized discussion, AJ can't holld Lennox jockstrap.

[MikeyMike100]

Yeah but look at what he did to McCall in the rematch.

I mean sitting here discounting years makes you seem like a ****ing pillock. Tyson achieved more than most of the 90s division by the time he was 21, that doesn't make him better than Lewis or Holyfield. I feel you're so desperate to make Joshua seem like this all time great because, fundamentally, you know he isn't. As said, canelo is a genuine future HOF and undeniable p4p King and no one really feels the need to sell him as such. His resume and in ring performances make that ****ing obvious.

It's hard to give Lennox Lewis credit for the rematch with Oliver McCall being in such poor condition. Any top 20 heavyweight would've beaten Oliver McCall on that night. AJ win over Ruiz in the rematch is far more impressive especially when you consider that it was an immediate rematch, unlike Lewis's